Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-10 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
+1. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: Roman Shaposhnik Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling >This is a vote on recommending a retirem

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-10 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 (binding) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010: >http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html > Up until 2012 the poddling was doi

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling... -1 for now. Unless I missed something I don't see any mention of this on the NPanday mailing list at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npa

RE: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Wow - thanks for your diligence Bertrand. I support this -1 unless Bertrand made a mistake. Ross -Original Message- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:02 AM To: Incubator General Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option >> for the NPanday poddling... > > -1 for now. > > Unless I missed something I don't see any mention of this on the > NPand

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Mentors should raise the issue with the podling. If the mentors are absent then maybe the problem doesn't lie with the podling but with our handling of it. A VOTE should be a formality used on the few occasions where our bye-laws require them. It certainly should not, IMHO, be a stick to wave in

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Mentors should raise the issue with the podling. If the mentors are absent > then maybe the problem > doesn't lie with the podling but with our handling of it. The only active mentors left on the project seem to be of an opini

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report. And I have raised the flag about project's issues on the general@ before. As far as I can tell this whole discussion about NPanday is going on for about a year now (by very modest e

RE: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
nal Message- From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman Shaposhnik Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)

RE: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling Actually, as per this email http://is.gd/55HOkJ I have emailed npanday-dev@ with the reminder about missing report.

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-11 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
c. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling > > Actual

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread John D. Ament
the noise. > > > > Ross > > > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@apache.org] > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:06 PM > > To:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread jan i
community. Remember not everyone reads general@ and those that do > often > > get > > > drowned in the noise. > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > > > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
> -Original Message- > From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman > Shaposhnik > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling > > On Thu, Dec

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-12 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
t; > get > > > drowned in the noise. > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > > > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Konstantin Boud

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2014-12-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...Let's cancel this vote and have at least Cos send them a note saying "many > of us in the IPMC think you should retire" (but more nicely/PC). Give them > 72 hours to provide feedback +1, after that I'm ok to vote on retirement. -Ber

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 - Henry On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and its mentors that > retirement is the only viable path at this poi

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread jan i
+1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life support has to be terminated at a point. rgds jan i On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the gen

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
+1 to retire. The half full aspect is that it looks like people are doing something more useful with their time. Hadrian On 01/21/2015 05:19 PM, jan i wrote: +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life support has to be terminated at a point. rgds jan i On Wednesda

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 Retirement isn't a failure. It is just one of several options. Not every projects needs to continue on original form, and not every project needs to be at Apache. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanda

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread John D. Ament
+1 It's a cool idea, but the technology direction has gone a different way. On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-21 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan > On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator. > [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but... > [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because > ...

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. +1 but it looks like a few people are interested in using and working on that code, please make sure clear instructions are given to them about how they can fo

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/15 22:19, jan i wrote: > +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life > support has to be terminated at a point. Isn't this the podling that requested retirement months ago, and was told to give it one more try? jona

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM, jonathon wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 21/01/15 22:19, jan i wrote: >> +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life >> support has to be terminated at a point. > > Isn't this the podling that requested reti

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 LieGrue, strub > On Wednesday, 21 January 2015, 23:15, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >T his is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and its mentors that > retirement is the only

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...We had a vote thread about a month ago: http://s.apache.org/HIF ... And I voted -1 at that time (http://s.apache.org/Vqa) but my concern has been addressed, hence my +1 above. -Bertrand ---

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-23 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and its mentors that > retirement is the only viable path at this point

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-26 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
+1 [sadly] On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:13PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and its mentors that > retirement is the only viable path at this poin

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and its mentors that > retirement is the only viable path at this point: > htt

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-01-30 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
+1 (non-binding) -Taylor > On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option >> for the NPanday poddling. >> >> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of >> the NPa

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final resolution summary. John On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanda

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament wrote: > So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final > resolution summary. > > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired them from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly, unl

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Dave Fisher
We need to report that NPanday is being retired. On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament > wrote: > >> So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final >> resolution summary. >> >> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my sea

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > We need to report that NPanday is being retired. > > Yep, added a retired section. John > On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament > > wrote: > > > >> So, at this point, is this

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today. Thanks, Roman. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:01 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > >> We need to report that NPanday is being retired. >> >> > Yep, added a retired section. > > John >

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-) John On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:06:51 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today. > > Thanks, > Roman

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some > basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-) Nah, its cool. I've initiated all the required steps and updated the website. At this point, we're

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:59:21 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some > > basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-) > > Nah, its cool. I've initiate

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

2015-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:06 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:59:21 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> > Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some >> > basic shepherding work (since I pulled t