RE: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-06-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Do we really want to do this? svnpubsub remains unsupported, AFAICT, and > it's uptime/reliability has been dismal. I don't see any reason to make the change until infra tells us to do it, or at least likes the idea. --- Noel

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-06-17 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/17/2010 2:30 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/17/2010 9:06 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Justin Erenkrantz >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna wrote: It is possible to run an incubator.staging.apache.org, syncing off a br

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-06-17 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/17/2010 9:06 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Justin Erenkrantz > wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna wrote: >>> It is possible to run an incubator.staging.apache.org, syncing off a >>> branch, and the live site off trunk, or vice versa. >>> >>

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-06-17 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna wrote: >> It is possible to run an incubator.staging.apache.org, syncing off a >> branch, and the live site off trunk, or vice versa. >> >> (possible, but I wouldn't recommend it, merging html

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-05 Thread Santiago Gala
2010/2/5 Justin Erenkrantz : > > (Perhaps we should move this conversation to infra-dev?)  -- justin > Or maybe site-dev, not really sure Regards Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For a

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-05 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna wrote: > It is possible to run an incubator.staging.apache.org, syncing off a > branch, and the live site off trunk, or vice versa. > > (possible, but I wouldn't recommend it, merging html changes like that > is pretty meh) I think we pretty much have

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > This would mean that any commits made to the site-publish tree would > automatically be deployed to the site.  No more delays, no more SSH > and SVN up fun.  Yay. +1, one doesn't have to be very tired or distracted long enough to forget i

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-05 Thread Paul Querna
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:26 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/4/2010 11:24 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: >> In that case, +0 from me. We gain the elimination of the p.a.o bit but >> lose the benefit of the delay, so it's basically a wash, as far as I'm >> concerned. > > After several years of watc

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-04 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/4/2010 11:24 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: > In that case, +0 from me. We gain the elimination of the p.a.o bit but > lose the benefit of the delay, so it's basically a wash, as far as I'm > concerned. After several years of watching incubator site commits, I don't see this is a serious problem.

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-04 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: >> Unless I'm missing something, using svnpubsub will only remove the >> need for the second part (checkout on p.a.o), but not the first part >> (Anakia). People will still need to run

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Does 'svnpubsub' also dispense with the hourly rsync step > to truly be live. > i.e. http://apache.org/dev/project-site.html > find-in-page: rsync Yes. > Is there a description of svnpubsub? Other than: https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread David Crossley
Martin Cooper wrote: > > Unless I'm missing something, using svnpubsub will only remove the > need for the second part (checkout on p.a.o), but not the first part > (Anakia). People will still need to run Anakia to generate the HTML > pages from the XML sources, but when they check in the HTML, it

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
+1 On 2/3/2010 1:57 AM, Gav... wrote: > > This system is not applied to most TLPs, though they can request it. > And I'm betting that every single project that graduates will make that > request rather than learn the old cumbersome way. ++1 :) ---

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, using svnpubsub will only remove the > need for the second part (checkout on p.a.o), but not the first part > (Anakia). People will still need to run Anakia to generate the HTML > pages from the XML sources, but w

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Leif Hedstrom
On 02/02/2010 11:57 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Hi general@, I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. (We can do so by filing a JIRA like INFRA-2349: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2349) +1 from me too. As a current incubator contributor, this woul

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Hi general@, I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. terrific idea! +1 -jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional comman

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Upayavira wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:57 -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: >> Hi general@, >> >> I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. >> (We can do so by filing a JIRA like INFRA-2349: >> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFR

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Upayavira
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:57 -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > Hi general@, > > I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. > (We can do so by filing a JIRA like INFRA-2349: > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2349) > > This would mean that any commits made to t

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Yoav Shapira
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > Hi general@, > > I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. > (We can do so by filing a JIRA like INFRA-2349: > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2349) +1. Yoav ---

RE: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Gav...
> -Original Message- > From: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 5:28 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub? > > +0.9 > > I agree that the site u

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+0.9 I agree that the site update process is cumbersome, but it also gives podling folks an incentive to log on to p.a.o and learn to use that system to their advantage. Moving to svnpubsub would take that away. That said, I think that most committers never have to go to p.a.o in any case so perh

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 from me too! Cheers, Tommaso 2010/2/3 Jukka Zitting > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Justin Erenkrantz > wrote: > > I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. > > +1! > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > ---

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. +1! BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > +1 from me on this - I'd see the OODT changes more quickly, right? Indeed! Your note re: OODT is what triggered me to send this email. =P -- justin - To unsubs

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 from me on this - I'd see the OODT changes more quickly, right? Cheers, Chris On 2/2/10 10:57 PM, "Justin Erenkrantz" wrote: Hi general@, I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. (We can do so by filing a JIRA like INFRA-2349: http://issues.apache.org/jira/brow