Re: Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I agree with Joe. thanks, dims On 11/13/2009 03:50 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Greg Stein To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:23:04 PM Subject: Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

Re: Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Greg Stein > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:23:04 PM > Subject: Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for > Subversion) > Okay. I *think* that is pretty much the background

Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Greg Stein
on all releases. Can we tweak ViewVC to dynamically insert a header "This repository area is part of an Apache Incubator podling". etc etc. Cheers, -g -- Forwarded message -- From: Leo Simons Date: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 19:17 Subject: Re: Two other issues to discuss for Sub

Re: [last call] setting up Subversion mailing lists (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Craig L Russell
No objection from me for creating mailing lists and svn repo in the expected final place. It's a bit of a pain for podlings to face a double move of both their repositories and mailing lists when arriving at Apache. The rationale for doing it has many aspects that IMHO don't apply to the S

Re: [last call] setting up Subversion mailing lists (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Gilles Scokart
Same remark here than for the svn migration. As this is unusual for the incubating project, it might be eductive for the future poddling to describe why the incubator wants normaly to have incubator mailing list and why this rational is not applicable to subversion. Gilles Scokart 2009/11/13 G

Re: [last call] svn repository moving Sunday (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Gilles Scokart
As this is unusual for the incubating project, it might be eductive for the future poddling to describe why the incubator wants normaly to to have the project under /incubator/ and why this rational is not applicable to subversion. Don't misunderstand me, I think it is good to have such exception

Re: [last call] setting up Subversion mailing lists (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > Joe Schaefer asked if he could set up the mailing lists this weekend. > The discussion seemed to end, with no particular opposition, so I > filed an Infrastructure ticket to track the creation of the mailing > lists: >  https://issues.apache.or

[last call] setting up Subversion mailing lists (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
Joe Schaefer asked if he could set up the mailing lists this weekend. The discussion seemed to end, with no particular opposition, so I filed an Infrastructure ticket to track the creation of the mailing lists: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2324 At this time, we're setting up just

Re: [last call] svn repository moving Sunday (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
Forgot to list the Infrastructure ticket, in case you would like to follow the migration more closely: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2321 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 13:41, Greg Stein wrote: > It looks like we might be moving the code repository over on > Sunday(!). Thus, my query abo

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
Thanks, and yes: agreed on the rationale. And have no fears. We aren't going to back out. And I'm not seeing that the ASF would boot us. So that just means we need to work through it :-) On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 19:17, Leo Simons wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> The

[last call] svn repository moving Sunday (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
It looks like we might be moving the code repository over on Sunday(!). Thus, my query about source code placement has a finite window for further discussion :-) Over the past two days, it sounds like nobody has any particular object to the svn code being loaded directly to /subversion. (yes, it i

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: > > * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org > * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/ > > We are hoping to minimize over

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Easy: no, unless you have the same open source track record and constitution of apache folks as subversion does. - Original Message > From: Gilles Scokart > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:11:10 PM > Subject: Re: Two other issues to

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Gilles Scokart
What will you say to the next incubating project asking the same thing? Gilles Scokart 2009/11/10 Greg Stein > There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: > > * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org > * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Branko Čibej
Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> LOL >> >> Well... the problem is that an "svn mv" from /incubator/subversion/ to >> /subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is >> actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > LOL > > Well... the problem is that an "svn mv" from /incubator/subversion/ to > /subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is > actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is very > important to us). Sounds lik

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 22:41, Ralph Goers wrote: > On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers >> wrote: >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: >>>

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers wrote: >> >> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >>> There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: >>> >>> * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.o

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 22:17, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers wrote: >... >> I am fine with doing everything as if this was a TLP with the two exceptions >> that 1) the main page should say it is still in incubation 2) it is still >> under the umbrella of the IPM

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: >> >> * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org >> * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: > > * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org > * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/ > > We are hoping to minimize over

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Now that you have explained :) +1 from me. -- dims On 11/10/2009 02:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote: LOL Well... the problem is that an "svn mv" from /incubator/subversion/ to /subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Kevan Miller
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/ subversion/ We are hoping to minimize overall disr

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Stein
LOL Well... the problem is that an "svn mv" from /incubator/subversion/ to /subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is very important to us). (and yes, because of that history issue, I personally have no problem put

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Stein
The project status will stay there and be maintained as long as we're incubating. That's my initial draft to get it into the system. I need to spend more time with it (but have spent time getting other discussions/tasks "into the pipeline"). I'm just about out of that stuff, so will go update that

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Personally i am ok with #1, but i am not sure if "svn switch --relocate" too much of a burden for you guys :) On 11/10/2009 02:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org * placing the

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
How about the website ? (I can not find any information about the project, mentors, committers etc.. ) http://incubator.apache.org/projects/subversion.html -Deepal > There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: > > * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org

Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Stein
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/ We are hoping to minimize overall disruption to the community with a move to incubator space