Re: Wikis for podlings

2014-11-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...What is the process for requesting a wiki for a podling?... You can just create a https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA issue and ask for either a Confluence space or a moinmoin wiki. -Bertrand ---

Wikis for podlings

2014-11-25 Thread John D. Ament
Hi, What is the process for requesting a wiki for a podling? It looks like Tamaya may be interested in using a wiki for most of its docs, but I didn't see anything in particular that talked about creating a wiki. John - To unsu

Re: wikis

2006-11-15 Thread Upayavira
David Crossley wrote: Gwyn Evans wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrote: Eelco, Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But when the time comes

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread David Crossley
Gwyn Evans wrote: > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > >Eelco, > > > >Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with > >infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal > >group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But > >when the time comes, they

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread Ted Husted
On 11/14/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People should be helping make SubWiki the best thing since sliced breads instead of routinely having this discussion... You mean this SubWiki? * http://www.webdav.org/wiki/projects/SubWiki * http://subwiki.tigris.org/ Though, if I wanted to

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread Ted Husted
- doing with Trac what we orignally wanted to do with Subversion. + doing with Trac what we orignally wanted to do with SubWiki. On 11/14/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's under the Apache License now and integrates with Subversion. A reasonable idea would be look at merging the pro

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread Johan Compagner
For the record: JIRA made our users very happy. They have been asking for it almost from the start and for some reason we always got complaints about the SF issue tracker. If only JIRA didn't mess with the subjects when sending updates for a issue johan

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread Eelco Hillenius
when you're thanked for stamping your feet so much and asked to be on the ASF board (but that's getting ahead of myself, really). We don't have special feelings towards Confluence (though I have been using it in a commercial setting for quite a while without ever having problems).

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Nov 9, 2006, at 7:26 PM, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Allow me to make this clear. Lol. Wow, that's a lot of opinions in one paragraph. Heh. Well, this was where the problem was then: we thought confluence was going to be supported, but was kind of in the beta phase. Anyone use gmail? Anyon

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 9, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Don Brown wrote: Where should it be documented? I set up Confluence exactly like the other JIRA installations using the same directory structures, startup scripts, tomcat setup, and logging policies. If it is a matter of not enough volunteers to administrate it, let

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Don Brown
Where should it be documented? I set up Confluence exactly like the other JIRA installations using the same directory structures, startup scripts, tomcat setup, and logging policies. If it is a matter of not enough volunteers to administrate it, let me know and I'll get a few other people. I'm

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Ted Husted
On 11/9/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When infrastructure votes to maintain it for as long as the projects wish to use it, then it is infrastructure. Right now, Confluence is just an experiment and we made that abundantly clear. The first two people who promised to maintain it d

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Don Brown wrote: What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had volunteered to maintain it, and if that's the case, Confluence is indeed a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure since

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Ted Husted
On 11/6/06, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We're working on setting up the UIMA project, and I'd be interested in hearing opinions from the community about the pros/cons of the different approaches (perhaps there even are others in use at Apache?). Thanks for the post Marshall. I've

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On 11/9/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had volunteered to maintain it, and if that's the case, Confluence is indeed a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure sin

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Martin Cooper
On 11/9/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had volunteered to maintain it This is something I was wondering about as this thread developed, and while I think I agr

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
Been there for a few weeks, now... /Gwyn On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You will not know till you try volunteering right? (subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- dims On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 09/11/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist - Point 2 "Work > on documentation" > -> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-998 with patch > -> Still waiting Personally,

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Don Brown
What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had volunteered to maintain it, and if that's the case, Confluence is indeed a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure since I, as a member of ASF and Infrastructure, have

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
You will not know till you try volunteering right? (subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- dims On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eelco, > > Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with > infra always pu

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
And if you are going with confluence, you may as well help our infra maintain its confluence :) instead of a brand new install somewhere else :) :) -- dims On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 09/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Allow me to make this clear.

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eelco, Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But when the time comes, they ar

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 09/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allow me to make this clear. Confluence is not part of the ASF > infrastructure. We made a machine available for it because a very > few people are so used to badly designed Java servlet interfaces > that they actually prefer a wiki that

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional > organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a stable and > maintained infrastructure. we (wicket) cam

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 09/11/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Allow me to make this clear. Confluence is not part of the ASF infrastructure. We made a machine available for it because a very few people are so used to badly designed Java servlet interfaces that they actually prefer a wiki that goes do

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist - Point 2 "Work on documentation" -> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-998 with patch -> Still waiting Personally, I'm not willing to start documenting our offering of such a se

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 11/9/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 'If the cwiki maintainers want to fix those things, they'll get fixed.' doesn't give a lot of confidence that Apache as an organization takes the responsibility one would expect from an organization with it's stature. One can't expect a hig

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Allow me to make this clear. Confluence is not part of the ASF infrastructure. We made a machine available for it because a very few people are so used to badly designed Java servlet interfaces that they actually prefer a wiki that goes down on a regular basis, and those people promised to do al

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Eelco, Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But when the time comes, they are not there. So who is at fault? All infra folks come fro

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote: this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a stable and maintained infrastructure. we (wicket) came here from sf.net. things used to go down there all the time

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Garrett Rooney
o so, it doesn't get fixed. There are portions of our infrastructure that is maintained at a very high level of reliability (email, svn, web pages), and portions that are less so (the various wikis, for one reason or another). If more people with the appropriate skills volunteer to hel

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist - Point 2 "Work on documentation" -> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-998 with patch -> Still waiting /Gwyn On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the i

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 11/9/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the infra mailing list and help out where you can. I don't think that's the point though. Maybe it sounded a bit rough, but I agree with Igor that a remark like 'If the cwiki maintain

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 09/11/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Conspiracy or cock-up? Is this a case of 'not-invented-here', a > objection to the use of non-Apache-licenced software or just a > misunderstanding - it's hard to believe anyone would put

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the infra mailing list and help out where you can. -- dims On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On the original subject, CWiki does seem to be partially 'hidden' a

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the original subject, CWiki does seem to be partially 'hidden' at > Apache - I've tried to help, in terms of a patch to add it to the list > of services documented at http://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#wiki > (still waiting to be lo

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Conspiracy or cock-up? Is this a case of 'not-invented-here', a objection to the use of non-Apache-licenced software or just a misunderstanding - it's hard to believe anyone would put in a Wiki without ensuring it's data is automatically backed

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 09/11/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/6/06, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For purely philosophical reasons I think moin-moin is the way to go for > a wiki. It is a truly open-source wiki. Confluence is a commercial > product FWIW, until recently, the Co

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 11/6/06, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For purely philosophical reasons I think moin-moin is the way to go for a wiki. It is a truly open-source wiki. Confluence is a commercial product FWIW, until recently, the Confluence install has been largely unmaintained. MoinMoin is fu

RE: wikis

2006-11-06 Thread Johnson, Eric
is a commercial product > -Original Message- > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:55 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: wikis > > I think it comes down to what a wiki means to your community. > T

Re: wikis

2006-11-06 Thread Upayavira
Mike Kienenberger wrote: On 11/6/06, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There seem to be (at least) 2 wiki systems in use at Apache. One is based on moin-moin (python), and is for instance, found at wiki.apache.org/incubator-yoko Another one is based on confluence's wiki, and is found f

Re: wikis

2006-11-06 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 11/6/06, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There seem to be (at least) 2 wiki systems in use at Apache. One is based on moin-moin (python), and is for instance, found at wiki.apache.org/incubator-yoko Another one is based on confluence's wiki, and is found for instance, at cwiki.apac

Re: wikis

2006-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
I think it comes down to what a wiki means to your community. The classic sense is as a very random user-inclusive system for bits of info. The other is as a much more structured system, possibly for document management. Your description below should go on the Incubator site or wiki - very good s

wikis

2006-11-06 Thread Marshall Schor
There seem to be (at least) 2 wiki systems in use at Apache. One is based on moin-moin (python), and is for instance, found at wiki.apache.org/incubator-yoko Another one is based on confluence's wiki, and is found for instance, at cwiki.apache.org/geronimo/ The cwiki may have additional cap