Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 16:56, tison wrote: > > Thanks for your explanation and good catch. I sent [1] to improve the case > here and it should be resolved now. > > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-streampark-website/pull/351 > > To search other pages, perhaps you can try to read the /sitemap.xml file to > find pages. Although I can see some hidden pages are included in > StreamPark's sitemap.xml, it's an issue of the project, not the approach to > walk through all the pages by sitemap.xml. The intention is to check a few pages other than the main page. If any pages don't have disclaimers, then it is likely that there are others without disclaimers. Once alerted to this, it is expected that podlings will take responsibility to follow through and check all their pages. Note also that not all podlings have a sitemap.xml file > Best, > tison. > > > sebb 于2024年4月25日周四 22:43写道： > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 15:18, tison wrote: > > > > > > > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be > > found. > > > > > > I do a quick check for the podlings I'm familiar with: > > > > > > For StreamPark, it reports: > > >"disclaimers": [ > > > 14, > > > [ > > > "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/team;, > > > "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/user; > > > ] > > > ] > > > But both pages should have the disclaimer at the footer. > > > > The checker does not currently support pages generated by Javascript. > > > > Those pages display as completely empty if Javascript is not enabled; > > that is not very friendly. > > > > > > > > For Fury, Answer, and HoraeDB, the result seems correct. It reports that > > > HoraeDB doesn't have the DISCLAIMER on all of its pages; this is the > > > case. I'll reach out to them to resolve this. > > > > > > I mentor a new podling GraphAr, which seems missing in the report. > > > > > > Best, > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > sebb 于2024年4月25日周四 22:11写道： > > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 13:05, tison wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > > > > > > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the > > web > > > > > pages > > > > > > > > > > [1] you refers writes: > > > > > > > > > > >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website > > > > > > > > > > So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info > > (typically as > > > > > part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, > > you > > > > can > > > > > name them and I'd like to give a look. > > > > > > > > I updated the Whimsy site scanner to report on top-level links to > > > > podling pages which don't appear to have the disclaimer. > > > > This does not yet appear in the Whimsy podlings report, but the raw > > > > data is in the JSON file at > > > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/public/pods-scan.json > > > > > > > > Search for "disclaimers", e.g. > > > > > > > > "disclaimers": [ > > > > 1, > > > > [ > > > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/;, > > > > " > > https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/download/download/;, > > > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/community/; > > > > ] > > > > > > > > The initial number (1 above) is the count of references that do appear > > > > to have the disclaimer. > > > > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be > > found. > > > > > > > > In the above case, I think they all need the disclaimer, but there may > > > > be some cases where it is not appropriate. > > > > > > > > > For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to > > > > ensure > > > > > that this policy is followed. > > > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > > > > > > > > > > > and in announcement emails > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus > > > > before? > > > > > I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more > > > > > clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the > > > > > announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this > > point, > > > > and > > > > > I didn't hear about this before. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should > > be > > > > > > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so > > consumers > > > > > > are clear about the status of the software. > > > > > > > > > > > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only > > present > > > > > > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include > > the > > > > > > disclaimer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > > > > > > incubation, this is something
Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
Thanks for your explanation and good catch. I sent [1] to improve the case here and it should be resolved now. [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-streampark-website/pull/351 To search other pages, perhaps you can try to read the /sitemap.xml file to find pages. Although I can see some hidden pages are included in StreamPark's sitemap.xml, it's an issue of the project, not the approach to walk through all the pages by sitemap.xml. Best, tison. sebb 于2024年4月25日周四 22:43写道： > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 15:18, tison wrote: > > > > > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be > found. > > > > I do a quick check for the podlings I'm familiar with: > > > > For StreamPark, it reports: > >"disclaimers": [ > > 14, > > [ > > "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/team;, > > "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/user; > > ] > > ] > > But both pages should have the disclaimer at the footer. > > The checker does not currently support pages generated by Javascript. > > Those pages display as completely empty if Javascript is not enabled; > that is not very friendly. > > > > > For Fury, Answer, and HoraeDB, the result seems correct. It reports that > > HoraeDB doesn't have the DISCLAIMER on all of its pages; this is the > > case. I'll reach out to them to resolve this. > > > > I mentor a new podling GraphAr, which seems missing in the report. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > > > sebb 于2024年4月25日周四 22:11写道： > > > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 13:05, tison wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > > > > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the > web > > > > pages > > > > > > > > [1] you refers writes: > > > > > > > > >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website > > > > > > > > So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info > (typically as > > > > part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, > you > > > can > > > > name them and I'd like to give a look. > > > > > > I updated the Whimsy site scanner to report on top-level links to > > > podling pages which don't appear to have the disclaimer. > > > This does not yet appear in the Whimsy podlings report, but the raw > > > data is in the JSON file at > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/public/pods-scan.json > > > > > > Search for "disclaimers", e.g. > > > > > > "disclaimers": [ > > > 1, > > > [ > > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/;, > > > " > https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/download/download/;, > > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/community/; > > > ] > > > > > > The initial number (1 above) is the count of references that do appear > > > to have the disclaimer. > > > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be > found. > > > > > > In the above case, I think they all need the disclaimer, but there may > > > be some cases where it is not appropriate. > > > > > > > For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to > > > ensure > > > > that this policy is followed. > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > > > > > > > > > and in announcement emails > > > > > > > > This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus > > > before? > > > > I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more > > > > clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the > > > > announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this > point, > > > and > > > > I didn't hear about this before. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > > > > sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should > be > > > > > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so > consumers > > > > > are clear about the status of the software. > > > > > > > > > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only > present > > > > > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include > the > > > > > disclaimer. > > > > > > > > > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > > > > > incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very > > > > > beginning. > > > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 15:18, tison wrote: > > > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be found. > > I do a quick check for the podlings I'm familiar with: > > For StreamPark, it reports: >"disclaimers": [ > 14, > [ > "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/team;, > "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/user; > ] > ] > But both pages should have the disclaimer at the footer. The checker does not currently support pages generated by Javascript. Those pages display as completely empty if Javascript is not enabled; that is not very friendly. > > For Fury, Answer, and HoraeDB, the result seems correct. It reports that > HoraeDB doesn't have the DISCLAIMER on all of its pages; this is the > case. I'll reach out to them to resolve this. > > I mentor a new podling GraphAr, which seems missing in the report. > > Best, > tison. > > > sebb 于2024年4月25日周四 22:11写道： > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 13:05, tison wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the web > > > pages > > > > > > [1] you refers writes: > > > > > > >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website > > > > > > So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info (typically as > > > part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, you > > can > > > name them and I'd like to give a look. > > > > I updated the Whimsy site scanner to report on top-level links to > > podling pages which don't appear to have the disclaimer. > > This does not yet appear in the Whimsy podlings report, but the raw > > data is in the JSON file at > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/public/pods-scan.json > > > > Search for "disclaimers", e.g. > > > > "disclaimers": [ > > 1, > > [ > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/;, > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/download/download/;, > > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/community/; > > ] > > > > The initial number (1 above) is the count of references that do appear > > to have the disclaimer. > > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be found. > > > > In the above case, I think they all need the disclaimer, but there may > > be some cases where it is not appropriate. > > > > > For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to > > ensure > > > that this policy is followed. > > > > > > [2] > > > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > > > > > > > and in announcement emails > > > > > > This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus > > before? > > > I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more > > > clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the > > > announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this point, > > and > > > I didn't hear about this before. > > > > > > Best, > > > tison. > > > > > > > > > sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > > > > > > > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should be > > > > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so consumers > > > > are clear about the status of the software. > > > > > > > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only present > > > > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include the > > > > disclaimer. > > > > > > > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > > > > incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very > > > > beginning. > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
> The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be found. I do a quick check for the podlings I'm familiar with: For StreamPark, it reports: "disclaimers": [ 14, [ "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/team;, "https://streampark.incubator.apache.org/user; ] ] But both pages should have the disclaimer at the footer. For Fury, Answer, and HoraeDB, the result seems correct. It reports that HoraeDB doesn't have the DISCLAIMER on all of its pages; this is the case. I'll reach out to them to resolve this. I mentor a new podling GraphAr, which seems missing in the report. Best, tison. sebb 于2024年4月25日周四 22:11写道： > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 13:05, tison wrote: > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the web > > pages > > > > [1] you refers writes: > > > > >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website > > > > So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info (typically as > > part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, you > can > > name them and I'd like to give a look. > > I updated the Whimsy site scanner to report on top-level links to > podling pages which don't appear to have the disclaimer. > This does not yet appear in the Whimsy podlings report, but the raw > data is in the JSON file at > > https://whimsy.apache.org/public/pods-scan.json > > Search for "disclaimers", e.g. > > "disclaimers": [ > 1, > [ > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/;, > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/download/download/;, > "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/community/; > ] > > The initial number (1 above) is the count of references that do appear > to have the disclaimer. > The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be found. > > In the above case, I think they all need the disclaimer, but there may > be some cases where it is not appropriate. > > > For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to > ensure > > that this policy is followed. > > > > [2] > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > > > > > and in announcement emails > > > > This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus > before? > > I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more > > clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the > > announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this point, > and > > I didn't hear about this before. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > > > sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > > > > > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should be > > > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so consumers > > > are clear about the status of the software. > > > > > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only present > > > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include the > > > disclaimer. > > > > > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > > > incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very > > > beginning. > > > > > > Sebb > > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 13:05, tison wrote: > > Hi Sebb, > > > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the web > pages > > [1] you refers writes: > > >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website > > So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info (typically as > part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, you can > name them and I'd like to give a look. I updated the Whimsy site scanner to report on top-level links to podling pages which don't appear to have the disclaimer. This does not yet appear in the Whimsy podlings report, but the raw data is in the JSON file at https://whimsy.apache.org/public/pods-scan.json Search for "disclaimers", e.g. "disclaimers": [ 1, [ "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/;, "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/docs/download/download/;, "https://hugegraph.incubator.apache.org/community/; ] The initial number (1 above) is the count of references that do appear to have the disclaimer. The array is a list of pages in which the disclaimer could not be found. In the above case, I think they all need the disclaimer, but there may be some cases where it is not appropriate. > For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to ensure > that this policy is followed. > > [2] > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > > > and in announcement emails > > This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus before? > I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more > clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the > announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this point, and > I didn't hear about this before. > > Best, > tison. > > > sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > > > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should be > > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so consumers > > are clear about the status of the software. > > > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only present > > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include the > > disclaimer. > > > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > > incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very > > beginning. > > > > Sebb > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 13:05, tison wrote: > > Hi Sebb, > > > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the web > pages > > [1] you refers writes: > > >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website > > So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info (typically as > part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, you can > name them and I'd like to give a look. > > For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to ensure > that this policy is followed. > > [2] > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > > > and in announcement emails > > This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus before? > I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more > clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the > announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this point, and > I didn't hear about this before. The policy at [1] includes the phrase " in all documentation (including releases) ". The announce mail is documentation that the release has occurred. It is vital that consumers are told up-front about the status of incubator releases. > Best, > tison. > > > sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > > > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should be > > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so consumers > > are clear about the status of the software. > > > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only present > > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include the > > disclaimer. > > > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > > incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very > > beginning. > > > > Sebb > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing Incubator disclaimer text
Hi Sebb, > quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the web pages [1] you refers writes: >> Podling web sites MUST include a clear disclaimer on their website So, IMO it's clear that every page should contain such info (typically as part of the footer). If you find any podling violates this policy, you can name them and I'd like to give a look. For the podlings I participate in, I spread the docu template [2] to ensure that this policy is followed. [2] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/blob/f8129ca66fdff1c97e0749eb2ed319f1739f6f34/docusaurus.config.ts#L137 > and in announcement emails This sounds like a new sentence to me. Have we ever had a consensus before? I agree that such a policy can help convey the project's status more clearly, and it won't be difficult to add such a section in the announcement email. Most of the podlings may be unaware of this point, and I didn't hear about this before. Best, tison. sebb 于2024年4月24日周三 15:58写道： > My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should be > present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so consumers > are clear about the status of the software. > > However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only present > on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include the > disclaimer. > > Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during > incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very > beginning. > > Sebb > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Missing Incubator disclaimer text
My understanding is that the Incubator disclaimer text [1] should be present on all website pages and in announcement emails, so consumers are clear about the status of the software. However there are quite a few podlings where the text is only present on some of the web pages, and most announce emails don't include the disclaimer. Note that unlike licensing issues, which can be sorted out during incubation, this is something that must be addressed from the very beginning. Sebb [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
