Re: EJB = bad = MS.net

2002-02-20 Thread dIon Gillard
Vic Cekvenich wrote: > Home page of Jakarta has this > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0130.2 > on this: > http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg03376.html > > I agree. Doing EJBs is bad on many levels and creates more problems. > Avoid EJB if you want to stay in J

RE: Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Scott Sanders
> -Original Message- > From: acoliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: ApacheForge > Just FYI > > There is also the traffic issue. If you have an active > project, sourceforge automatically publicizes

RE: New sites using Jakarta's projects

2002-02-20 Thread Stephane Bailliez
> -Original Message- > From: Levy, Pierre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Dear Jakarta Team and contributors, > > I'm proud to let you know that the city of Paris is about to > release 21 [...] cool ! > summer. Have a look to Credits popup for more detailed information on > components

RE: Apache Manual (was ApacheForge)

2002-02-20 Thread Marc Saegesser
Alex, That's a really good start. My only comment right now is to point out that some of the topics in this list are Jakarta specific and Apache is much bigger than Jakarta. It would be cool if a manual such as this covered how other Apache projects handle similar tasks. I'd also include a cha

Re: Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread acoliver
>On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:25:28 Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Log4J was hosted on SourceForge >>> POI was hosted on SourceForge >>> BCEL was hosted on So

Re: Apache Manual (was ApacheForge)

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2/20/02 10:03 AM, "Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not start it yourself and anyone can suggest changes. I love it when people 'get it'. :-) > On the other hand, why not start it myself. Something like this: You kick ass. Note that the majority of your bullet

Re: Apache Manual (was ApacheForge)

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
I don't think you understood what I said...so let me repeat... You give me a TOC and I will review and comment on it. :-) -jon on 2/20/02 9:50 AM, "Paul Hammant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon, > > Give us a TOC for what you think might be a good starting point. > >> That said, I will

Re: EJB = bad = MS.net

2002-02-20 Thread Austin Gonyou
That sounds more like opinion than fact. EJB's seem to work fine, and do a good job, where they fit. Why would you say that if you use EJBs you'll have to use .CRAP? On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 11:42, Vic Cekvenich wrote: > Home page of Jakarta has this > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0130

RE: Apache Manual (was ApacheForge)

2002-02-20 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Why not start it yourself and anyone can suggest changes. On the other hand, why not start it myself. Something like this: 1.- Introduction Who we are, why are we doing this. 2.- Project proposal Proposal stage, committers needed, community. 3.- Code organization and repositories Naming

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Vladimir Bossicard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I started my project, I took a deep deep look at several Apache projects: > > - how they wrote the build file > - how they organized the cvs tree > - where they placed the license > - how they named the packages > - how they wrote their website

Apache Manual (was ApacheForge)

2002-02-20 Thread Paul Hammant
Jon, Give us a TOC for what you think might be a good starting point. >That said, I will do my best to support someone who wants to create a manual >like that. If you hang around here and watch what happens and how people do >things and start to document it. Then I promise to review it and comme

EJB = bad = MS.net

2002-02-20 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Home page of Jakarta has this http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0130.2 on this: http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg03376.html I agree. Doing EJBs is bad on many levels and creates more problems. Avoid EJB if you want to stay in Java. Alternative is to just use St

New sites using Jakarta's projects

2002-02-20 Thread Levy, Pierre
Dear Jakarta Team and contributors, I'm proud to let you know that the city of Paris is about to release 21 official sites mainly powered by Jakarta projects and free softwares (Linux, MySQL,..). Our project is based on Java-XML portals that share content through a common database and XML documen

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2/20/02 9:22 AM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But I haven't found an 'Apache' manual. > > Because it would take a HUGE amount of effort to create and maintain a > manual like that. The people who kno

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Log4J was hosted on SourceForge >> POI was hosted on SourceForge >> BCEL was hosted on SouceForge >> >> My point is that you need 'a' SourceForge to start your project. > >

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I haven't found an 'Apache' manual. Because it would take a HUGE amount of effort to create and maintain a manual like that. The people who know the manual don't have the itch to create the manual because there is always p

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I volunteer since I don't have one single experience of the Apache > community? By simply stepping up and doing something. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Log4J was hosted on SourceForge > POI was hosted on SourceForge > BCEL was hosted on SouceForge > > My point is that you need 'a' SourceForge to start your project. No you don't. http://share.whichever.com It is just more '

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Vladimir Bossicard
> And look at Log4j, look at POI, look at BCEL, look at Lucene, look at > FOP, look at XIndice, just to name a few: they were all able to build a > community on their own, thus they were entitled to get in. Log4J was hosted on SourceForge POI was hosted on SourceForge BCEL was hosted on SouceForg

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-20 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vladimir Bossicard wrote: > > > Apache is and has always been selective for a reason: we value > > communities more than software and it takes a lot of energy to build a > > community solid enough to build good enough software to pay back Apache > > for the risk of diluting the brand each time a

Re: Problem installing Jarkarta-Tomcat

2002-02-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I think idiot was chosen because the person would have had to browse past the mail page with all the rules and then go to the other page. So had they taken the time to read any of the first page, then they'd have known where to post. Anyone object to me moving the "general" list to the bottom

FW: grammer issue

2002-02-20 Thread Paulo Gaspar
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: grammer issue > > > Hello, > Just thought I'd drop you a quick line to let you know that there is a > slight grammer issue on the home page