Hi to all,
I'm using OpenThunderGraph in my day job
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/thundergraph/)
It's really a great graph library which may be used in
both server-side and client-side application.
It support many type of Graph and some nice features like
AutoZoom of part of graph (in applet
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote:
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/thundergraph/)
>
> I contacted the main developper and he seems to be ok
> with making OpenTG a jakarta project.
>
> So what do you think about it as a sub-project, or as a
> jakarta-commons subprojec ?
I have reservatio
I have reservations:
Let's go...
1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet
made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of
server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into
db.apache.org, I think there ought to be a gui.apache.o
Good dialogue.
At 04:32 PM 1/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
I have reservations:
Let's go...
1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet
made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of
server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 2003/1/10 5:06 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I thought this might be interesting to some folks... They're porting
> > PHP to Java...
>
> Yea, it is called JSP w/ scriptlets.
JSP2.0 w/ JSTL. Full of ${blah} variables to
Love to see a gui framework / tools thingy on apache..
Working on that stuff a lot lately (of course has a Apache Style
License)
Mvgr,
Martin
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:32, Henri Gomez wrote:
> > I have reservations:
>
> Let's go...
>
> > 1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a pro
http://rasmussen.homeip.net:8088/fileblog/blog/computers/java/culture#jcp_mystery
-Andy
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Interesting points.
Who runs the JCP? Is Apache just a member, or an actual runner? If so, is
it Apache's role to comment in anyway on the current disatisfaction with
the hidden-ness of the JCP? Or is that the JCP themselves [if such exists]
role?
[Apache's role, along with all the other top-lev
JCP is the Java community process. A federation of hundreds of companies that
produces standards (such as EJB) for the Java community. Anyone can be a
member and your vote counts. JCP is what Java has that .NET never will and
that is why .NET will win.
-- Robert
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But who speaks for JCP?
While you offer a nice brochure view of the JCP, the other side is that
the JCP is a large company dominated organisation which conducts its
business behind closed doors and has a high cost to effective entry.
An individual can join one project without having to pay ridic
>
> But who speaks for JCP?
Those who chose to be involved.
> While you offer a nice brochure view of the JCP, the other side is that
> the JCP is a large company dominated organisation which conducts its
> business behind closed doors and has a high cost to effective entry.
High cost ? Last I c
Don't bother questioning or wondering about the JCP. Fact of the matter is
that it is just one big fucked mess full of all the political bullshit you
could ever imagine. It isn't worth your time.
-jon
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > But who speaks for JCP?
>
> Those who chose to be involved.
I'm not sure I'm conveying the question properly. As an Apache committer,
I am unable to speak on behalf of the ASF. Equally, as a JCP member I
would not be able to speak on behalf of JCP.
Welcome to real life business. In the real world, not everything goes your
way. You get to choose between a mass of "political bullshit" and having no
choice at all. I opt for choice even if the choice is flawed. You can put
your future in the hands of Microsoft if you want. Problem is that you are
on 2003/1/28 9:50 PM, "Robert Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Welcome to real life business. In the real world, not everything goes your
> way. You get to choose between a mass of "political bullshit" and having no
> choice at all. I opt for choice even if the choice is flawed. You can put
>
[Electricity outages tonight mean my DNS is down. But looking at the JCP
in a text browser the mail archives are at:
http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/jcp-interest.html
Time for more spam :)
Hen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote:
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>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
>
>
To continue having fun replying to myself:
This mail list seems to be akin to a JCP-announce list. It seems to be
Harold Ogle sending out announcements that new documents are available at
the JCP. Useful, but not really what I was asking Robert to show existence
of.
Hen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Hen
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
Real life business shouldn't be bullshit. I'm not going to buy into that. It
is people like you who opt into the flawed choices instead of speaking up
that allow the flawed choices to continue on longer than they should.
Yay! +1
Cluetrain might be the naive interpretat
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