Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hey... I know what this could be called... Alexandria Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: A joke turns into something serious ...but I am all with you guys. As I said: the more I think about it - the more I like the idea! You've got

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: A joke turns into something serious ...but I am all with you guys. As I said: the more I think about it - the more I like the idea! You've got my +1 :) But is that what you mean? (+1 is active not passive) It is what I

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Henri Yandell wrote: A joke turns into something serious ...but I am all with you guys. As I said: the more I think about it - the more I like the idea! You've got my +1 :) But is that what you mean? (+1 is active not passive) This all sounds like a nice idea, and could potentially solve the

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote: i like the idea of tagging emails better: a single list with cool server side filtering and metrics. we don't have the technology for this yet so i'm willing to see the mailing lists split so long as people would be willing to consider coming back if i

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote: On 15.03.2006, at 10:10, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/14/06, Torsten Curdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...regarding the forums - na. What does that help? Judging from myself, users don't like to have to subscribe to mailing lists, especially wh

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 15.03.2006, at 10:10, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/14/06, Torsten Curdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...regarding the forums - na. What does that help? Judging from myself, users don't like to have to subscribe to mailing lists, especially when they don't need the list on a daily basis.

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/14/06, Torsten Curdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...regarding the forums - na. What does that help? Judging from myself, users don't like to have to subscribe to mailing lists, especially when they don't need the list on a daily basis. E.g. I would hate to get every question and answer

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-14 Thread Ortwin Glück
robert burrell donkin wrote: i think that's one of the advantages of flattening karma and voting: . we need to separate the formal legal structure (karma, voting) from the community (developers hanging out) from the ontological (communicating that the components are). from an ontological per

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Torsten Curdt
i like the idea of tagging emails better: a single list with cool server side filtering and metrics. we don't have the technology for this yet so i'm willing to see the mailing lists split so long as people would be willing to consider coming back if it every arrives... I was just consideri

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/14/06, J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean like Nabble? (http://www.nabble.com) Though I recently migrated my project (Floyd) to OpenQA, I don't exactly know my way around there yet. But I think they are using Jive (http://www.jivesoftware.com/). cheers, Tom ---

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 3/14/06, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps a forum frontend would be even better for users, at least for > non-power-users. You mean like Nabble? (http://www.nabble.com) I like Simon's proposal. I know I need something that better allows me to manage the number of lists I'

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Sandy McArthur
On 3/14/06, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/14/06, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was just considering proposing exactly this! > > > > The issues about groupings, subprojects, etc. are completely irrelevant > > it seems to me. A community is the set of people sub

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/14/06, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just considering proposing exactly this! > > The issues about groupings, subprojects, etc. are completely irrelevant > it seems to me. A community is the set of people subscribed to emails > about a particular project, no more and no le

Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Simon Kitching
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 20:23 +, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 19:13 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > > Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal. > > Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous, support. > > A vote thread may follow this thread if th

RE: Other Jakarta Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 19:18 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > In terms of finding homes, I wonder if we should have a root directory under > which we have inactive codebases. One problem would be that no PMC would be > responsible. Or we could create a sort of reverse incubator: a curatorship, > wh

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 16:53 +0100, Martin van den Bemt wrote: > Just zap alexandria (we just zapped the mailinglist too). We can look at it > as being promoted to TLP > anyway (gump). > ORO and Regexp ar kind of finished I thought, we should mark it "stable" or > something like that. > Don't k

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 15:29 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: > Board report done - now I can irritate you all on these threads again :) > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, robert burrell donkin wrote: > >> - each component provides an extension to the JavaSE > >> - code judged by would it be out of place in th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Board report done - now I can irritate you all on these threads again :) On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 19:13 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal. Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous,

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 19:49 +0100, Ortwin Glück wrote: > > Sandy McArthur wrote: > > As a programmer looking for useful code to help me with uploaded > > files, I'm going to look in something named Jakarta *Web* Components > > first. When I see Jakarta HTTP Components I think of interacting with >

Re: adding a link from commons.apache.org to Jakarta Commons?

2006-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I'll give it a shot. A link from commons.apache.org to Jakarta Commons, XML Commons and WS Commons seems pretty fair. Hen On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/13/06, Sandy McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know Jakarta Commons isn't a TLP but considering the commons.apache.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 19:13 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal. > Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous, support. > A vote thread may follow this thread if the mood remains positive. i'm a little unsure whether this will turn out

Re: adding a link from commons.apache.org to Jakarta Commons?

2006-03-14 Thread Martin Cooper
On 3/13/06, Sandy McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know Jakarta Commons isn't a TLP but considering the > commons.apache.org space is vacant how about addins a blurb about the > Jakarta Commons. You'd have to sell this idea across the ASF, not just at Jakarta, and you'll likely get more