Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

Hi Berin! Berin Loritsch wrote: Kevin A. Burton wrote: I hate this! Sun called on consumers to demand that Microsoft include the Java platform in their XP operating system. Sun also said consumers should demand PC vendors like Dell, Compaq, Gateway, IBM and HP (Hewlett-Packard)

Re: FW: Microsoft pulls back on Java support

Hi Mike! Mike Braden wrote: Has anyone seen this yet? Subject:Microsoft pulls back on Java support http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2790355,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews 01 Does not apply here, since Jakarta deals with server-side Java. Un saludo, Alex.

Re: How times change !!

I wonder: when Microsoft announces things like those, do they even take it seriously (since everyone knows they'll cancel it later)? Do they hire people? Allocate time for the tasks using Project? Even draw a PowerPoint or two to show around? Alex. Pier P. Fumagalli wrote: Jon Stevens at

Re: The Lie

Have you noticed the logical fallacies and flaws that guy can put in a few sentences? The way the license is written, if you use any open-source software, you have to make the rest of your software open source. If the government wants to put something in the public domain, it should. Linux is

Re: New Subprojects

Hi folks! Jon Stevens wrote: Maybe one day people will realize that it is significantly easier to just download the 400k turbine.jar and link against that than it is to spend a huge amount of effort decoupling and interfacing everything to oblivion. For us, it's not about easy or difficult.

Re: JCP Survey

My gosh! I can't believe it, the survey is in ASP! Is it a joke? And the percentage shown at the bottom *is* a joke! Un saludo, Alex. Peter Donald wrote: Hi, For those of you interested in future of java I would reccomend that you visit a survey at

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

Hi Steve! Steve Downey wrote: Please, let us not start the great brace and indentation holy war here. Nope sir, not my intention at all. Also, if you want to reformat code, take a look at astyle, (sorry don't have a URL handy) a syntax directed indent engine that converts between the

Re: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

Hi folks. "Kevin A. Burton" wrote: ... the truth is somewhere in between. I think Dual Licensing solves the issue. You get your BSD and I get my GPL :) :) :) It's rather a lose-lose situation. You lose control over the derivatives if I want, and/or you lose credit if I choose. Alex.

Re: Is open source unamerican...

Hi Ceki! Long mail follows. Ceki Glc wrote: Pier, I am not sure that Allaire is entirely insane. He says: Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer ... I can't imagine something that could be worse than this for the software business and the intellectual-property