Re: Forum Software.

ing list and thus split the community. What purpose that leaves, I don't know. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Forum Software.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:08:56PM -0800, Randall J. Parr wrote: > > It seems much of the reason people want to have forums is for the search > abilities. There are mail archives available but I must I agree many are > so limited in their search abilities and/or interface that they do not > hel

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote: > > support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our nice world :) > Do you just not grasp that Sun's rigid control of Java is the antithesis of Open Source, and _especially_ the Apache philosophy? Try forking the Java co

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

verick to PHP: http://amb.sourceforge.net/ :-P Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

How about tweaking "db" enough so that it both pronounces better and has less explicit meaning? I like: dub.apache.org Let someone else figure out acronym meaning later :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many millions of dollars did Andersen spend for the name "Accentur

RE: You guys are so funny.

> >Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) > > B... vi rules! Ed is the standard text editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I was reading alt.slack in '91 :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For

RE: You guys are so funny.

Sorry, didn't intend to "throw" the whole mail at you. I haven't been around as long as you (probably a little over a year), but this is one of my favorite lists. It's far more entertaining than television :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Messa

RE: You guys are so funny.

t is better to extend or generate the Gump descriptors, or to use XSLT or DVSL, etc. Until the science becomes engineering, this mad driving need (among some) to "merge merge merge" is a pathology. Let it be. Use the software you like. Write the software you like. Berate people over t

RE: You guys are so funny.

needs to update Ellison's Law, s/Hitler/Microsoft :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: You guys are so funny.

Dude, do you really need to respond to *every single* piece of mail? Jeff > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:51 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > [part bazillion deleted] -- To

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

eative endeavor, whereas SQL statements are short and built by hard-core programmers. Also, simple HTML does not suffer from the problem of every web browser on the planet requiring a slightly different syntax for putting columns in a table... Velocity might be less useful if a separate templa

RE: Comments on the commons-logging API

and trying to build an abstraction layer on top of it seems even sillier. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Micro JakartaOne

> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Also, I'm still willing to show people the club, even if we aren't doing > anything... Definitely! Sorry to hear that a big organized shindig won't happen; a small disorganized shindig would be fine too though :-) Jeff I just started

RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

nished version linked off the main Jakarta page (as well as www.apache.org). Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

ed by the MIT X Consortium license. You are perfectly free to write commercial applications for Mono without paying a dime to Microsoft. You are perfectly free to fork the Mono codebase if you really want to. Mono runs on Linux. I'm definitely going to be looking into it soon. Jeff Schnitzer [EMA

RE: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

this: http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualj/jsharp/beta.asp Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [ot] J2EE considered harmful

to any single corporation. You cannot say the same for the J2SE, and vastly less so the J2EE. Not that I'm suggesting everyone in Jakarta should drop Java and start .NET development, but don't harbor illusions about the technology you're using. It serves the interests of Sun, not &

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

a long look, and maybe try to restart this discussion on one of their mailing lists :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: J2EE considered harmful

flexibility and performance. The problem with EJB, IMHO, is that it has merely replaced the complexity of the underlying system with the even greater complexity of the EJB system, and still significantly inhibits your ability to write well-performing applications. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: J2EE considered harmful

ach to Java so far has been *wholly* anathema to the principals of Open Source. At least Microsoft has submitted C# and the CLI to ECMA. Quoth Jon: *WAKE UP PEOPLE* I am tantalized by the idea of a third choice: the Apache platform. I propose a discussion of just what that might be. Jeff Schn

RE: J2EE considered harmful

will always be people who enjoy working on nonvirtual machines, but they're crazy :-) Does anyone think some variant of this idea to be worth pursuing? Or is everyone wedded to the idea of working on the proprietary Sun platform known as Java? Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

m to be in order... blah. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Richard Kirby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:54 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds > > > EJB2 does

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

ially given its atrociously slow mutation rate. If anyone who was writing this crap (the spec) was actually *using* it, it would probably allow for automatic generation of freaking primary keys... Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Neville Burnell [mailto:[EMA

RE: Cross site scripting

any particular presentation layer make sure that data behaves well. HTML output escaping is pretty computationally trivial, so performance doesn't seem like much of an issue. Mixing presentation-specific encoding into the data model, on the other hand, is setting up for future peril :-) Jeff Schnit

RE: Cross site scripting

ely disable _all_ htmlish tags, which might not be wholly desirable... still, it seems to me that that the best approach is to escape everything and then selectively translate *back* only the tags you want working (like ). Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <m

RE: Business-Oriented XML

with the Microsoft Telepathy Mouse, or whatever else comes along. Tying your business logic to HTML or HTTP isn't any better than embedding it in JSP pages. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Dave Jarvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday,

RE: Business-Oriented XML

client? And about the last point you brought up... how is your system any more platform, language, or database neutral than Struts, Maverick, Turbine, or WebWork? Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Dave Jarvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday

RE: How times change !!

> From: Alex Fernández [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I wonder: when Microsoft announces things like those, do they > even take > it seriously (since everyone knows they'll cancel it later)? Do they > hire people? Allocate time for the tasks using Project? Even draw a > PowerPoint or two to show