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Re: Jakarta POI audit.

Excellent. It took me about 15 minutes to prepare this audit. Because I take my responsibility as a: member (including my oversight responsibility) Jakarta PMC member committer developer POI-person good citizen of the Apache community seriously, I intend to perform this audit at least quarterly

Re: [OT] Re: [Proposal] Jakarta Ruper

A great Idea! I look forward to seeing you on the ruper(or whatever it ends up being named) list! > Moreover, the advantage of Java in this case is that we can distribute binaries, > which reduces the installation time from centuries to minutes. My tests with > an ebuild for Maven were quite prom

interesting

http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/DonDeut sch/ (from the front page of java.sun.com) My favorite part: But, as you might expect, among a population as broad and diverse as the Java community, with all of the corporate perspectives and individual interests, ther

Re: nice

Right but he's not AFAIK working there now and potentially exposed to NDA-tainted individuals :-) -Andy - Original Message - From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: Re:

Re: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

Extemely well said. Please get well soon my friend! :-) -Andy - Original Message - From: "Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)] > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > >

Re: nice

> There is a JCP mail list, but because of various non-disclosure > agreements made by the ASF, it's limited to ASF members, who are bound > by the same agreements. If there is sufficient interest in an open JCP > discussion list, I'm sure we can set that up. > +1 - especially if a goal of it is

Re: nice

And they would not be able to collaborate with their fellow members who are not in the expert group due to NDAs. -Andy - Original Message - From: "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Re: nice

Re: nice

Yeah, for instance, I was once interviewed for a contract to hire gig at Microsoft. (This was circa '97 prior to my involvment in Java). Had I sold my soul, would I still be able to be a member of Apache? While I do not subscribe to the jcp ot apache det org mailing list due to the NDA contractu

[Fwd: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation]

I need to read it a few times...but it sounds good. The devil will be in the details... "scholarship" is an interesting choice of words regarding TCKs but I can see how they might want to be selective. --- Begin Message --- JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation: The Apache S

Re: RE: Jakarta Overview

>Does this mean that anything "donated" is accepted on behalf of the project, >by anyone with karma, without discussion and can therefore only be openly >opposed once it has already been accepted? > I think the line of thinking behind the question (irrelevant of the question itself) is incorrect

Re: RE: Printable pages

...grumble..grumble...old browsers...upgrade...grumble...dark ages...internet...grumble...netscape4.7x...sucks..grumble... >On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:57:35 -0500 "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned. >It makes use of embedded t

Re: Re: [OT] JCP rant

>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:47:26 0100 Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these >problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java >Community Process or whether the closed-like-a-clamp is a symptom >o

Re: RE: LICENSE in .jar files

I do. I was just curious. >On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:26:50 -0500 "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> BTW. Define: "release" ;-) > > >That sounds like former persident Bill Clinton with his >"define sexual relations". Such a que

Re: Re: Jakarta Overview

+1 - I'd like to see the detractors patch it as they see fit. >On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:56:31 -0800 Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0319 >> >> Thank you for your contribution. > >I would be in favor of hav

Re: Re: License issue (the come back)

>On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:05:41 0100 Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you break US law while in France without breaking any French laws and no US laws covered by extradition treaties, I don't think you care unless you enter the US physically (and have tick

Re: Re: ASL vs. GPL page?

>On 06 Mar 2002 14:50:24 0100 Gunnar =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F8nning?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. Thats how I feel. Take POI, for instance, we don't want most things that *could* be donated. For example: say you write an office suite in Java... Cool, feel free to opensource it, but its way outside

Re: Re: ASL vs. GPL page?

>On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 14:09:23 Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A lot of "what we think and why" is on the web already... It's in the mail >archives, in the presentations to different conferences, and so on... The >word is out there,

Re: Re: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

Original Message - >From: "acoliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:56 PM >Subject: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?) > > >> If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publica

Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott the JavaOne, hold a "countersession" called "JakartaOne" at a bar or club and a certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks and make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye. Hypothetically

Re: Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them

Heck yeah! I'm also quite curious to see Jon's club. >On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:17:54 -0600 "Morgan Delagrange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >- Original Message - >From: "acoliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them

>On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:01:31 Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, >> thee, softdrinks &c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: >> that Tuesday). > >Pl

evaluation of "Synergy" was Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project

quickhanded evaluation: 0. Method: merely unzipped and read through the code and the provided information. Coined the phrase "quickhanded" because I like making up my own words if one doesn't come to mind. (but it describes this does it not) 1. I'm underwhelmed with the prospect of collaborati

Re: Object/Relational Java Reflection Tool

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html In short...(I'm not on the PMC)...probably not. >On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:59:20 -0500 "Lukas Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >Hi all, > >Forgive me if this is not the place to post this to, but I was not very >successful in finding a contact for ne

Re: RE: update POI web

Thanks Scott! No problem. >On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:25:53 -0800 "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >Done. Sorry Andrew. > >Scott > >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Sanders >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:23 AM >> To: Jakarta General List >> Subject: RE: update

Re: Re: OT: Someone better warn Sam Ruby

wrong kind of stoned. Read the article ;-) >On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:44:50 0100 (CET) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. > >On 23 Feb 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >> Open Source Developer Stoned... >> http://bbspot.com/News/2002/02/stoned.html > >Why drink and drive if you can smoke and fly ? > >Dw. > >

Re: Re: Jakarta PMC 2002: Results of the Ballot.

Is that not a measure of success? A healthy and mature project shouldn't depend on its founders for its continued development... Congradulations to the founders. :-) >On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:20:50 Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Re: adding my project to jakarta

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:13:50 1100 Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. No offense to commons but if one can make ones project move up the list on sourceforge, I would venture to guess they'd get far more exposure then as a new package under commons. There is a hump to travel up on sourcefor

Re: Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

Darn...and I was saving that one for April 1 :-) >On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:43:05 -0800 Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >Thanx, Andy. There have been such rumours! ;-) > >At 08:02 AM 2/25/02 -0500, you wrote: >>Yes! Actually Apache is funded fully by Microsoft and its all be

Re: Re: The Complete Server Platform?

I think this would be less contentious then you think. Basically if you add the *oh the power of those who do* principal then you'll probably get some list chatter but just say "are you volunteering" and they'll nearly immediately shutup. If you get two volunteers in the same area then its quite

Re: Re: ApacheForge

>On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:25:28 Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, "Vladimir Bossicard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Log4J was hosted on SourceForge >>> POI was hosted on SourceForge >>> BCEL was hosted on So

Re: Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

>On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:29:39 -0800 Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >McClanahan ROCKS! > +1 >At 12:32 PM 2/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >>Craig McClanahan wrote: >> > >> > At Apache, I got involved in the Apache JServ project before there was a >> > Jakarta (along with other lon

Re: [ANN] Apache's Position on the JSPA (was: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit:

>On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 11:19:43 -0800 Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >on 1/30/02 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it >> doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want". Can you give me a >> goo

Re: Re: Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

>On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:48:28 -0500 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >Andrew C Oliver wrote: >>> >>> A few links: >>> >>> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2002/02/04/mono.html >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23919.html >>> http://www.ximian.com/devzone/projects/mono.html

Re: Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

> >Peter is correct. A few links (you can see my name in the first one): > > http://www.ecma.ch/ecma1/MEMENTO/TC39-G3.HTM > http://www.ecma.ch/ecma1/NEWS/NEWS.HTM > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2002/02/04/mono.html > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23919.html > http://

Re: Re: J2EE considered harmful

>On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:35:55 - "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > #1 you don't need to use EJBs to distribute business logic If you do >need to >> > distribute business logic, then there are various alternatives open, >from >> > HTTP/

Re: Re: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

+1 >On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:36 -0800 Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >on 2002.1.31 10:36 AM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would like to nominate Scott Sanders (myself) for the PMC election. > > 1 > >-jon > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Use of Jakarta guidelines for other Open Source project

If I'm not mistaking aren't the guidelines APL'd? Hence you can use them provided you give credit and don't advertise your guidlines as Apache, or Apache Jakarta or Apache Jakarta Guidelines? ;-) >On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:47:00 0100 Mark Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >Hi there, > >Our com