Martin,
> > Jakarta is
> > Components
> > Sandbox
> > Things move from sandbox to components.
> That would be fine if there was a well-defined scope for the sandbox.
Should be the same as the scope for Jakarta. Define that, and you may have
your answer.
--- Noel
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Why? Do you need something to do? I have many unworked open source
tasks that I could pass on. I'm happy to help you along on them.
Seriously.
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote:
However Jakarta-sandbox is
SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on sourceforge
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote:
However Jakarta-sandbox is
SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on sourceforge IMO. If you want
to start a whole NEW project then do that in the incubator IMO.
Why on sourceforge - why not on our infrastructure?
What the difference for you?
You
> However Jakarta-sandbox is
> SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on sourceforge IMO. If you want
> to start a whole NEW project then do that in the incubator IMO.
Why on sourceforge - why not on our infrastructure?
What the difference for you?
You want every tiny (commons) library go thro
On 4/10/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
>
> > On 4/10/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 22:31 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >>> Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 4/10/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 22:31 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm not opposed to say an
HTTPD-sandbox for experimental HTTPD related stuff.
I'm n
On 4/10/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 22:31 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm not opposed to say an
> > HTTPD-sandbox for experimental HTTPD related stuff.
> > I'm not opposed to a POI-sandbox (indee
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 22:31 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm not opposed to say an
> HTTPD-sandbox for experimental HTTPD related stuff.
> I'm not opposed to a POI-sandbox (indeed we have one but call it
> scratchpad) for POI-related stuff. Howev
On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 00:48 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > What would be the constraints on what could go in there? Anything, as long
> > as it's written in or for Java?
>
> My fault, I thought we'd had a long thread on this before so didn't do
> much explaining.
>
> The same as Commons Sandbox
Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm not opposed to say an
HTTPD-sandbox for experimental HTTPD related stuff.
I'm not opposed to a POI-sandbox (indeed we have one but call it
scratchpad) for POI-related stuff. However Jakarta-sandbox is
SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on s
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > projects coming into the ASF go through the Incubator. New things
> > started entirely within the ASF do not, currently.
> Then there is no NEED for a sandbox.
As you know, the sandbox predates the Incubator, and AIUI, the Sandbox
exists so as
Based on that what WOULD BE out of scope of today's commons or this
MEGA-sandbox or this JCL or whatever?
robert burrell donkin wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 10:20 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Totally NOT how the incubator was described to me. As I understand it
if Tomcat (for instance) w
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator.
All new projects must go through the incubator and endure.
ACO's gratuitously snarky comments aside, projects coming into the ASF go
through the Incubator. New things started entirely within the ASF
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 10:20 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Totally NOT how the incubator was described to me. As I understand it
> if Tomcat (for instance) wants to create a new JSP engine, that's kosher
> for Tomcat. However if someone in POI wanted to create a new AI engine
> (having no
> 1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator.
>All new projects must go through the incubator and endure.
ACO's gratuitously snarky comments aside, projects coming into the ASF go
through the Incubator. New things started entirely within the ASF do not,
currently.
> * Create development mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
sandbox-dev@ ?
Otherwise, fine.
--- Noel
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On 4/9/06, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ideally, a sandbox project should be "adopted" by its closest living
> relative, and use that project's list until it grows up. This
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] idea looks more like a communal orphanage to me...
>
> Of course if a big bunch of peopl
So basically if I call my project a component I don't have to go
through the incubator just YOUR
incubator.
Nope, poor explanation on my part. Code created within the Apache
community does not have to go through the incubator at all. The only bit
component refers to is related to Martin's p
On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 00:51 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote:
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> On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Simon Kitching wrote:
> > And who is expected to subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Those who want to? :)
>
> I imagine those working on sandbox components at the moment, plus a
> handful of people who tend to subsc
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Nathan Bubna wrote:
On 4/8/06, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1 on these points
1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All
new projects must go through the incub
y
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1 on these points
1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All new
projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons sandbox was
created pri
On 4/8/06, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
> >> -1 on these points
> >>
> >> 1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All
> >> new projects must go through the incubator and endur
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1 on these points
1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All
new projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons
sandbox was created prior to the incubator.
Nope, all new communities
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Rainer Klute wrote:
Am Freitag, den 07.04.2006, 19:17 -0400 schrieb Henri Yandell:
Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
* Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
* Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandbox
* Create developmen
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1 on these points
1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All new
projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons sandbox was
created prior to the incubator.
Nope, all new communities must go through the in
Am Freitag, den 07.04.2006, 19:17 -0400 schrieb Henri Yandell:
> Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
>
> * Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
> * Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandbox
> * Create development mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
-1 on these points
1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All
new projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons sandbox
was created prior to the incubator.
2. No to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it is a MEGA-list for all of
Jakarta. The commons list is horrible
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Simon Kitching wrote:
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 16:28 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 4/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
* Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
* Migrate Jakarta Taglibs
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 4/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
* Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
* Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandbox
* Create development mailin
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 16:28 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 4/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
> >
> > * Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
> > * Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandb
On 4/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
>
> * Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
> * Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandbox
> * Create development mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> * Cre
Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails:
* Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox
* Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandbox
* Create development mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Create wiki (and migrate wiki bits from j-c-s/j-t-s)
* Jakarta Sandbox
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