Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?

2012-10-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Ha!

two minutes later - the tweet has been deleted :-D

But it was linking to this page = http://www.apachemobilefilter.org/

-Matthias

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 just ran into this one:

 https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760

 searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
 being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
 _closely_ connected ?


 I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
 Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
 AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
 as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache

 Thx,
 Matthias

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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?

2012-10-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
 https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760

 searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
 being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
 _closely_ connected ?...

That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
far.


 ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
 Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
 AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
 as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache...

I agree that the Apache Mobile Filter name might give the impression
that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server.

-Bertrand

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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?

2012-10-04 Thread Idel Fuschini
Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and is
a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem

Idel (owner of AMF)

On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
 
  searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
  being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
  _closely_ connected ?...

 That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
 http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
 far.

 
  ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
  Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
  AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
  as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache...

 I agree that the Apache Mobile Filter name might give the impression
 that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
 Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server.

 -Bertrand

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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?

2012-10-04 Thread Ross Gardler
On 4 October 2012 14:53, Idel Fuschini idel.fusch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and is
 a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem

There is a potentially significant trademark problem (hence moving
this to trademarks@):

The following uses of ASF trademarks are probably infringing:
Software service offerings that are for anything other than official
ASF-distributed software.

and

You may not use ASF trademarks such as Apache or ApacheFoo or
Foo in your own domain names if that use would be likely to confuse
a relevant consumer about the source of software or services provided
through your website

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

Ross


 Idel (owner of AMF)

 On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
 
  searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
  being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
  _closely_ connected ?...

 That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
 http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
 far.

 
  ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
  Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
  AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
  as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache...

 I agree that the Apache Mobile Filter name might give the impression
 that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
 Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server.

 -Bertrand

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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?

2012-10-04 Thread Idel Fuschini
So I need to change my domain name ?

And this http://www.apache.com/ or myapache.org, or
http://www.fortsillapache-nsn.gov/ or
http://www.sancarlosapache.com/home.htm

For me is a free project and I don't make money with this :-(

and also my wiki the discription is:

The module detects the mobile device and passes the WURFL capabilities on
to the other web application as environment variables. It can also be used
to resize images on the fly to adapt to the screen size of the mobile
device.


Idel


On 4 October 2012 16:21, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:

 On 4 October 2012 14:53, Idel Fuschini idel.fusch...@gmail.com wrote:
  Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and
 is
  a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem

 There is a potentially significant trademark problem (hence moving
 this to trademarks@):

 The following uses of ASF trademarks are probably infringing:
 Software service offerings that are for anything other than official
 ASF-distributed software.

 and

 You may not use ASF trademarks such as Apache or ApacheFoo or
 Foo in your own domain names if that use would be likely to confuse
 a relevant consumer about the source of software or services provided
 through your website

 http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

 Ross

 
  Idel (owner of AMF)
 
  On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  wrote:
   https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
  
   searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
   being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
   _closely_ connected ?...
 
  That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
  http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
  far.
 
  
   ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
   Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
   AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
   as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache...
 
  I agree that the Apache Mobile Filter name might give the impression
  that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
  Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server.
 
  -Bertrand
 
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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?

2012-10-04 Thread Ross Gardler
On 4 October 2012 15:48, Idel Fuschini idel.fusch...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I need to change my domain name ?

Not necessarily. The ASF isn't in the business of shutting people down
- that's kind of counter to everything we are all trying to achieve.
All we want to do is remove confusion for end users. For this reason,
you do need permission from our VP Trademarks to use our marks in ways
that do not class as normative use.

The right thing to do is to engage with the tradema...@apache.org list
(I've again addressed that list in this reply). The people over there
will work with you to ensure there is no confusion for end-users and
thus ASF marks are not infringed. Shane (our VP Brand Management) is a
nice guy, he'll be happy to work with you as opposed to against you
:-)

Ross


 And this http://www.apache.com/ or myapache.org, or
 http://www.fortsillapache-nsn.gov/ or
 http://www.sancarlosapache.com/home.htm

 For me is a free project and I don't make money with this :-(

 and also my wiki the discription is:

 The module detects the mobile device and passes the WURFL capabilities on
 to the other web application as environment variables. It can also be used
 to resize images on the fly to adapt to the screen size of the mobile
 device.


 Idel


 On 4 October 2012 16:21, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:

 On 4 October 2012 14:53, Idel Fuschini idel.fusch...@gmail.com wrote:
  Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and
 is
  a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem

 There is a potentially significant trademark problem (hence moving
 this to trademarks@):

 The following uses of ASF trademarks are probably infringing:
 Software service offerings that are for anything other than official
 ASF-distributed software.

 and

 You may not use ASF trademarks such as Apache or ApacheFoo or
 Foo in your own domain names if that use would be likely to confuse
 a relevant consumer about the source of software or services provided
 through your website

 http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

 Ross

 
  Idel (owner of AMF)
 
  On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  wrote:
   https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
  
   searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
   being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
   _closely_ connected ?...
 
  That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
  http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
  far.
 
  
   ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
   Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
   AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
   as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache...
 
  I agree that the Apache Mobile Filter name might give the impression
  that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
  Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server.
 
  -Bertrand
 
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