[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-10 Thread Duncan
Thanasis posted on Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:54:53 +0200 as excerpted: > on 12/09/2010 06:13 AM Duncan wrote the following: >> Meanwhile, what about that 32-bit chroot option I mentioned? Actually, >> there's a whole properly documented Gentoo guide for that, and it's >> sort of special case, so I'll s

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-10 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 10 December 2010 00:28:59 Dale wrote: I had forgot about Kopete. I do use it. I may can just save the one file/directory for Kopete and .mozilla. I'll most likely just try the whole thing at first. If it causes me grief, I can logout, go to a console and del

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-10 Thread Thanasis
on 12/09/2010 06:13 AM Duncan wrote the following: > Meanwhile, what about that 32-bit chroot option I mentioned? Actually, > there's a whole properly documented Gentoo guide for that, and it's sort > of special case, so I'll skip the details on it, but I'll describe enough > about it so you ha

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday 10 December 2010 00:28:59 Dale wrote: > I had forgot about Kopete. I do use it. I may can just save the one > file/directory for Kopete and .mozilla. I'll most likely just try the > whole thing at first. If it causes me grief, I can logout, go to a > console and delete what I don't ne

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Duncan writes: Dale posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:03:56 -0600 as excerpted: Looks like this was simple enough to solve. Just leave .kde behind at least. No worries. Wish the multilib issue was this simple. o_O Seems to be good. Depending on how

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Frank Peters posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:36:29 -0500 as excerpted: On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:11:20 -0600 Dale wrote: I do have nvidia video cards. I assume the nvidia-drivers package will work fine with no-multilib? The way I am reading things it will but I do want

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Duncan writes: > Dale posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:03:56 -0600 as excerpted: > > Looks like this was simple enough to solve. Just leave .kde behind at > > least. No worries. Wish the multilib issue was this simple. o_O > > Seems to be good. > > Depending on how much customizing you do to y

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:03:56 -0600 as excerpted: > I can do this then. I'll just copy everything on /home over EXCEPT the > .kde directory. I don't have anything in there anyway. I use Seamonkey > for email so as long as I have .mozilla, I'm good to go. Heck, I may > just copy .moz

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:53:02 -0600 as excerpted: > Again, things are in flux here. You folks may have to look at time > stamps to see where my brain is at any given point. > > It sounds like I need to go multilib for now and when everything gets > sorted out for pure 64 bit, then swi

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Frank Peters posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:36:29 -0500 as excerpted: > On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:11:20 -0600 > Dale wrote: > > >> I do have nvidia video cards. I assume the nvidia-drivers package will >> work fine with no-multilib? The way I am reading things it will but I >> do want drivers tha

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:28:39 -0600 as excerpted: > One would think people would learn from KDE that stopping support for > one to favor the new one makes people . . . upset. I guess some people > never learn tho. Well, the grub thing has been going on for years, from well before kde4

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Harry Holt wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Dale > wrote: Frank Peters wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 + (UTC) Duncan<1i5t5.dun...@cox.net > wrote: Stan Sander wrote:

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Harry Holt
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Dale wrote: > Frank Peters wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 + (UTC) >> Duncan<1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> Stan Sander wrote: >>> >>> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32 > Emulation

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Florian Philipp posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:12:36 +0100 as excerpted: However, kde4 uses a database for akonadi. With older versions (thru 4.3 at least), it was mysql by default. [...] Same issue with Amarok. Thanks for the reminder. I'd forgotten about am

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Florian Philipp posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:48:29 +0100 as excerpted: Didn't you post on gentoo-user that you watch youtube videos? Well, the currently stable version of adobe-flash (10.1.102.64) is 32bit-only. That will change again with the next higher version in the tree

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:13:21 -0600 as excerpted: Stan Sander wrote: In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32 Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute grub at all. It's under file formats / Emulations in

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Frank Peters wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 + (UTC) Duncan<1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: Stan Sander wrote: In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32 Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute grub at all. It's un

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:32:29 -0600 as excerpted: I used lilo when I first started using Linux, Mandrake 9.1 days. When I started with Gentoo, I switched to grub. I can't even imagine being without grub. I know lilo has some strong points and is maintained but I

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Frank Peters
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:11:20 -0600 Dale wrote: > > I do have nvidia video cards. I assume the nvidia-drivers package will > work fine with no-multilib? The way I am reading things it will but I > do want drivers that work. > Don't forget about the stock nv driver that is supplied by Xorg.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Frank Peters
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > > Stan Sander wrote: > > >> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32 > >> Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute > >> grub at all. It's under file formats / Emul

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Florian Philipp posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:48:29 +0100 as excerpted: > Didn't you post on gentoo-user that you watch youtube videos? Well, the > currently stable version of adobe-flash (10.1.102.64) is 32bit-only. > That will change again with the next higher version in the tree but the > switc

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Florian Philipp posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:12:36 +0100 as excerpted: >> However, kde4 uses a database for akonadi. With older versions (thru >> 4.3 at least), it was mysql by default. > [...] > > Same issue with Amarok. Thanks for the reminder. I'd forgotten about amarok, as I got disgusted

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:11:20 -0600 as excerpted: >> $ eselect profile list >> Available profile symlink targets: >>[1] default/linux/amd64/10.0 >>[2] default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop >>[3] default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome >>[4] default/linux/amd64/10.0/des

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 09.12.2010 10:33, schrieb Duncan: > Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:21:53 -0600 as excerpted: > >> Alex Schuster wrote: > >>> If you are running databases like mysql, you need to export the >>> databases and import them later. This is because they are in binary >>> format, and the datatypes

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:13:21 -0600 as excerpted: > Stan Sander wrote: >> In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32 >> Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won't be able to execute >> grub at all. It's under file formats / Emulations in the menu. I think

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:18:30 -0600 as excerpted: > Could someone post the > output of eselect list profile from a 64 bit system? I did already. Our posts probably crossed on the list, but if you didn't see that message, ask for it again and I can repost. -- Duncan - List replies p

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:21:53 -0600 as excerpted: > Alex Schuster wrote: >> If you are running databases like mysql, you need to export the >> databases and import them later. This is because they are in binary >> format, and the datatypes are different in x86 and amd64 world. > I don

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-09 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:32:29 -0600 as excerpted: > I used lilo when I first started using Linux, Mandrake 9.1 days. When I > started with Gentoo, I switched to grub. I can't even imagine being > without grub. I know lilo has some strong points and is maintained but > I still prefer

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-08 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:26:00 -0600 as excerpted: Frank Peters wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:17:18 -0600 Dale wrote: What are some things that I should watch for and enable that isn't so obvious for someone new to 64 bit? The first thi

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-08 Thread Duncan
Frank Peters posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:54:37 -0500 as excerpted: > You have to make a symbolic link, /etc/make.profile, to a particular > profile in /usr/share/portage/profiles, i.e. either the multilib (64/32) > or the no-multilib (64-bit) profile. Also, the USE flag "multilib" > indicates t

[gentoo-amd64] Re: About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.

2010-12-08 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:26:00 -0600 as excerpted: > Frank Peters wrote: >> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:17:18 -0600 >> Dale wrote: >> >>> What are some things that I should watch for and enable that isn't so >>> obvious for someone new to 64 bit? >>> >> The first thing to decide is whether o