Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-15 Thread Graham Murray
R Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the only thing i know of that needs LT is Xen, and they're already > working on NPTL support. Also the (user space) driver from Epson for the Stylus Photo R800 printer needs Linuxthreads. While much of this is available in source code form, it includes a coup

[gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Danny van Dyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, grepped the tree tonight for ebuilds which inherit (deprecated) gcc.eclass. Attache is a list of packages that have at least one ebuild that matches "^inherit.*gcc". Please use toolchain-funcs.eclass where possible. Also, Diego (Flameeyes) as

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 May 2005 04:54 pm, Danny van Dyk wrote: > Please use toolchain-funcs.eclass where possible. note that the only syntax change you need to make is: gcc-getCC -> tc-getCC gcc-getCXX -> tc-getCXX otherwise toolchain-funcs should drop in nicely for gcc > Also, Diego > (Flameeyes) asked

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Michael Cummings
Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a day or so ago. On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:54, Danny van Dyk wrote: > Hi all, > > grepped the tree tonight for ebuilds which inherit (deprecated) > gcc.eclass. Attache is a list of packages that have at least one ebuild > that m

[gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
one advantage that other binary based package managers have over Gentoo is ease of recovery from broken core packages ... break your gcc ? no problem ! simply do `apt-get install gcc` or `rpm -i gcc` or whatever my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a better

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:11 pm, Michael Cummings wrote: > Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a day > or so ago. portage isnt griping, gcc.eclass is because i put it there besides, i didnt use caps and i said 'Please', so it's just a friendly notice ! -mike --

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > one advantage that other binary based package managers have over Gentoo is > ease of recovery from broken core packages ... break your gcc ? no problem ! > > simply do `apt-get install gcc` or `rpm -i gcc` or whatever > > my proposal

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 15 May 2005 23:03, Mike Frysinger wrote: > even better, you should ask yourself why you need to check the gcc version > and see if you cant make it make work properly regardless of the version Wow! For the first time I was already doing the right thing without SpanKY telling me that :D

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a > better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... > then next time you break a core system package which cannot be recovered by > simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Carlos Silva
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > one advantage that other binary based package managers have over Gentoo is > ease of recovery from broken core packages ... break your gcc ? no problem ! > > simply do `apt-get install gcc` or `rpm -i gcc` or whatever > > my proposal

Portage bitching out loud [Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc']

2005-05-15 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:21 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:11 pm, Michael Cummings wrote: > > Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a day > > or so ago. > > portage isnt griping, gcc.eclass is because i put it there > > besides, i didnt use

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
Mike Frysinger wrote: > [...] Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - untar the package. -- Krzysiek 'Nelchael' Pawlik RLU #322999[EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo base system - kernel 2.6.11-ck8 GPG:0x7E226904 http://fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~nelchael

Re: Portage bitching out loud [Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc']

2005-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:24 pm, Tom Wesley wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:21 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:11 pm, Michael Cummings wrote: > > > Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a > > > day or so ago. > > > > portage isnt griping, g

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Michael Cummings
Thanks! Just the cue I needed :) On Sunday 15 May 2005 17:03, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 15 May 2005 04:54 pm, Danny van Dyk wrote: > > Please use toolchain-funcs.eclass where possible. > > note that the only syntax change you need to make is: > gcc-getCC -> tc-getCC > gcc-getCXX -> tc-getC

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Daniel Drake
Danny van Dyk wrote: > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources I don't see any gentoo-sources ebuilds using this. Can you please re-check? Thanks Daniel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Jason Wever
On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:54:20 +0200 Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > net-im/bitlbee Fixed. Cheers, -- Jason Wever Gentoo/Sparc Team Co-Lead pgpcThbNhS88K.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: > Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - > untar the package. Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too. =) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCh84IXVaO67S1rt

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Danny van Dyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Drake schrieb: >>sys-kernel/gentoo-sources > I don't see any gentoo-sources ebuilds using this. Can you please re-check? Ok, i seem to have used the wrong tree (a bit outdated CVS instead livetree, sorry). Here is a new list which still consists

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Ryan
Heres the easiest way to do your "erescue" dd if=/dev/hda of=backup.iso "Three days later: AAAHHH! I blew up the /usr dir!" mkdir /backup mount -o loop backup.iso /backup cp -f -r -a /backup/usr / Pretty simple no? And there you have it. Backup shouldnt really be the burdon of developers. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - >> untar the package. > > Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too. =) Use static tar na bzip2 ;) Seriously: I'm for erescue (or whatever name will be chosen). -- Krzysiek 'Nelchael' Pawlik RL

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 16 May 2005 00:42, Danny van Dyk wrote: > media-video/cinelerra I've specifically ignored this package as it needs to go away very soon. It's p.masked, also. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64) http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ pgpRtj

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Lance Albertson
On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 00:42 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Daniel Drake schrieb: > >>sys-kernel/gentoo-sources > > I don't see any gentoo-sources ebuilds using this. Can you please re-check? > Ok, i seem to have used the wrong tree (a bit outdated

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Sun May-15-2005 at 04:48:04 PM -0600, Ryan said: [...] > something, then its your fault for not having a backup. Of coarse this > is just ONE way to backup. There are a bazillion ways to do it. The > choice is up to you. Besides, if you are running the unstable branch And if Gentoo provide

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread david stanek
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:32:40PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: > > Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - > > untar the package. > > Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too. =) How about statically linking a version of tar with porta

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 May 2005 07:41 pm, david stanek wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:32:40PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: > > > Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - > > > untar the package. > > > > Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too.

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Danny van Dyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson schrieb: > Probably best to make a bug to track this instead of tracking it on a > ML :) Jupp. See BUG #92745 ;-) Danny - -- Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:41, david stanek wrote: > Add an option to emerge, --backup or something > similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. If you set FEATURES="buildpkg", portage automatically makes binary packages for you. No need to add new support. pgpqwMjzk44tL.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread David Stanek
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 06:12:13PM -0700, John Myers wrote: > On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:41, david stanek wrote: > > Add an option to emerge, --backup or something > > similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. > > If you set FEATURES="buildpkg", portage automatically makes binary packages > fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Olivier Crête
On Sun, 2005-15-05 at 17:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > for example, when i broke binutils in unstable with a gcc4 patch, i noticed > that it's hard for users to *easily* recover from this ... we developers end > up scrambling to build a bunch of binary packages for a variety of compatible >

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread David Stanek
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 09:56:54PM -0400, David Stanek wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 06:12:13PM -0700, John Myers wrote: > > On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:41, david stanek wrote: > > > Add an option to emerge, --backup or something > > > similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. > > > > If you

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Sun May-15-2005 at 05:18:06 PM -0400, Mike Frysinger said: [...] > my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a > better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... > then next time you break a core system package which cannot be recovered

Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-15 Thread David Stanek
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 09:07:15PM -0700, Sami Samhuri wrote: > * On Sun May-15-2005 at 05:18:06 PM -0400, Mike Frysinger said: > [...] > > my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a > > better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... > >