Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Luis F. Araujo
Markus Nigbur wrote: Hi gang, I just (again) noticed I'm currently the only active developer of the desktop-misc herd, which is going to change as soon as the recruitment process is reopened again. About 80% of all bugs assigned to desktop-misc are new ebuild submissions for software which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:33:01 -0400 Luis F. Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea. I actually proposed a similar idea time ago in #-dev , but instead of doing it from bugzilla, to do it from the web site, (i like yours better) the main idea is to have a list of unmantained packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-13 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Sun Jun-12-2005 at 01:33:02 PM -0700, Zac Medico said: Athul Acharya wrote: [...] I mean lets face it, a distro that's largely DIY is hardly a good first Linux, but an excellent second Linux and indeed thats the very reason why I use Gentoo. Let Redhat/Fedora/Mandrake do the initial

[gentoo-dev] Announcing eselect

2005-06-13 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, eselect (formerly known as eclectic (formerly known as eselect)) is now in the tree as app-admin/eselect. Along with the new name comes a new version, 0.9.4. Changes in this release include: Bug Fixes: - fixed call to lapack

[gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
Hi all! We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this flag by make.conf, the environment or package.use. But we would not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 04:35:27AM +0200, Markus Nigbur wrote: Therefor I suggest introducing a new keyword to bugzilla's resolution list, called NEEDMAINTAINER. With this new keyword everyone could compile a list of currently unmaintained packages and just take the ones he likes. Additionally

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Harald van Dk
Just a thought, but how about making use.mask lock flags instead of forcing them off? Meaning, if use.mask contains ncurses, and make.defaults contains USE=ncurses, this would have the same effect as what ncurses in use.force would do. IMO, this would keep things a bit simpler. But again, just a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:36:09 +0200 Maurice van der Pot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definitely would like to see this. Just a few days ago I was considering adding a comment along the lines of we need a maintainer for this package, that's why nothing is happening to some bug reports.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Daniel Drake
Markus Nigbur wrote: Anyway, as I've already said I'm the _currently_ the only active herd member and simply cannot take the responsibility of about 100 new packages. Therefor I suggest introducing a new keyword to bugzilla's resolution list, called NEEDMAINTAINER. With this new keyword

[gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The bug hit me while working with GLI last night, and now I really do need a solution for it. Looking at the dep tree to see why perl pulls in openssl, the critical parts of the tree are this: (Trimmed to make things shorter) [ebuild N] dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4 +berkdb [ebuild N]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcing eselect

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 13 June 2005 12:14 pm, Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi Mike, Mike Frysinger schrieb: eselect (formerly known as eclectic (formerly known as eselect)) is now in the tree as app-admin/eselect. why not the app-portage category ? eclectic was in the tree as app-admin/eclectic. Anything

[gentoo-dev] Requests for status updates

2005-06-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
Hi all, the last global status update was in January when most top-level projects posted a short overview of their progress and their rough roadmap to the -dev mailinglist. I'd like to ask all top-level projects (and all subprojects that want to) to present a short overview of what happened since

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcing eselect

2005-06-13 Thread Shyam Mani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/13/2005 09:22 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: why not the app-portage category ? Since it has scope to work beyond Portage? - -- Shyam Mani | [EMAIL PROTECTED] docs-team | http://gdp.gentoo.org GPG Key| 0xFDD0E345 -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:17:12PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: I like the concept but I think that a previous suggestion that was discussed here was better. The suggestion was to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias which bugs could be assigned to. The discussion was a while ago but I don't recall

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-13 Thread Michael Cummings
We/me perl folks are working on it as quickly as we/i can. I'm slated to leave for vacation this weekend and would hate to drop a change like minimal support into the tree and then disappear for a week. that said, i plan on testing the new ebuilds tomorrow if nothing interrupts me. part of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Daniel Drake
Maurice van der Pot wrote: Do you have a date or thread subject or something like that? I can't find it in the archives. I would like to see some reasons why one or the other is better. I can't remember and I can't see it in the archives. Maybe I was dreaming... I think it logically fits

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:47:30PM +0200, Harald van D??k wrote: Just a thought, but how about making use.mask lock flags instead of forcing them off? Meaning, if use.mask contains ncurses, and make.defaults contains USE=ncurses, this would have the same effect as what ncurses in use.force

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Simon Stelling
Sven Wegener wrote: We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this flag by make.conf, the environment or package.use. But we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Am Montag 13 Juni 2005 20:15 schrieb Daniel Drake: Maurice van der Pot wrote: Do you have a date or thread subject or something like that? I can't find it in the archives. I would like to see some reasons why one or the other is better. I can't remember and I can't see it in the archives.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:04:42PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: I like the concept but I think that a previous suggestion that was discussed here was better. The suggestion was to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias which bugs could be assigned to. The discussion was a while ago but I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Daniel Drake
Stefan Schweizer wrote: I think its better to leave the package on the right alias, because its easier to find all pkges without maintainer for a certain herd then. Most of the people will want to start with only one herd to get ebuilds added, so it imo makes really sense to leave them

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:56:49PM -0400, Dan Meltzer wrote: Seems like use.force might be a bad name. when I first read the email, and saw use.force, the first thing that came to mind was gentoo forcing something? and even after reading the email, I wouldn't expect to be able to override

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:40:34PM -0500, Kito wrote: what about just a use.env? I find that a little bit misleading. Sounds like use this environment or so. Sven -- Sven Wegener Gentoo Linux Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ pgpjQajdyL9gj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 13 June 2005 23:08, Alec Warner wrote: How is this not just a consequence of USE=-*...that is what this does; turns off ALL use flags. How is use.force ( or the concept thereof ) not breaking the 'easy' interpretation of USE=-* because now things aren't -*, they are -* + use.force

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:08:09PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: use.force might not be the best name, but it's what we do with it for most of our users. Being able to -flag in /etc/portage/profile/use.force is just because /etc/portage/profile gets added to the cascaded

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Lance Albertson
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 20:49 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: Stefan Schweizer wrote: I think its better to leave the package on the right alias, because its easier to find all pkges without maintainer for a certain herd then. Most of the people will want to start with only one herd to get

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Markus Nigbur
On Monday 13 June 2005 23:58, Lance Albertson wrote: Hrm, this is making me wonder if a combined alias for new ebuilds and ebuilds that need maintainers could be used. The current alias as new-ebuilds probably wouldn't fit this as well. If seemant is up for it, we could just use something like

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:40 +0200, Sven Wegener wrote: Hi all! We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this flag by

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:56 pm, Ned Ludd wrote: Would you mind calling it package.autouse, package.use.auto or are you set on .force? the 'auto' and 'use' gets confusing with use.defaults (the so called 'auto-USE flags') -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-13 Thread Danny van Dyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Weiler schrieb: * Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/06/13 10:18 -0700]: 3. split java support out of db. During stage-building we have USE=-java, but still there is a perl/openssl dependency, which I can't track. x86 seems to build a

[gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Doty
Hey all- Introducing our newest victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hdev, Johnathan Smith. smithj(as he's known to his friends) hails from North Carolina, here in the US. He's going to be helping out with desktop-misc items as well as hopefully helping with the GDP. --

[gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass

2005-06-13 Thread Chris White
Here's the nitty gritty: -- BACKGROUND -- kde-look.org is a site that hosts various kde themes to change the look and feel of the kde desktop. - REASONING - An eclass such as this would be benificial to users that want to create custom ebuilds for various kde

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Kumba
Sami Näätänen wrote: On Monday 13 June 2005 23:54, Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:40:34PM -0500, Kito wrote: what about just a use.env? I find that a little bit misleading. Sounds like use this environment or so. How about use.lock, which would lock the listed use flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass

2005-06-13 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Chris White wrote: kde-look.org is a site that hosts various kde themes to change the look and feel of the kde desktop. Well actually some of the things I've done as an external was maintaining a series of ebuilds for themes, splashscreens and stuff like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcing eselect

2005-06-13 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 13 June 2005 09:42 am, Aaron Walker wrote: eselect (formerly known as eclectic (formerly known as eselect)) is now in the tree as app-admin/eselect. why not the app-portage category ? -mike My reason for

[gentoo-dev] Re: New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-13 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Introducing our newest victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hdev, Johnathan Smith. smithj (as he's known to his friends) hails from North Carolina, here in the US. He's going to be helping out with desktop-misc items as well as hopefully

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Jason Wever
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:40:48 +0200 Sven Wegener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. One feature that would be more useful (in my honest on Tuesdays opinion) for us arch folks is the ability to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-13 Thread Shyam Mani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/14/2005 06:29 AM, Mike Doty wrote: Introducing our newest victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hdev, Johnathan Smith. smithj(as he's known to his friends) hails from North Carolina, here in the US. He's going to be helping out with desktop-misc items as well

[gentoo-dev] Metastructure vote preliminary results

2005-06-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
Dear all, We have preliminary results from the metastructure vote, and we'll publish a more thorough accounting tomorrow. *** Finished ranking candidates *** Final ranked list: Oldschool-small-with-slacker-boot Oldschool-small Oldschool-large Alternative FOSDEM

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Metastructure vote preliminary results

2005-06-13 Thread Aron Griffis
Following up as an election official... The results Grant posted are the same as I got. Regards, Aron -- Aron Griffis Gentoo Linux Developer pgpJAqOi44Ac5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass

2005-06-13 Thread Shyam Mani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/14/2005 04:03 PM, Chris White wrote: 1) get the general skeletal eclass file going 2) work with multilib 3) integrating with kde eclasses Would it be easier for you chaps to write up something like gnome-art? That way, the user can preview,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Metastructure vote preliminary results

2005-06-13 Thread Lance Albertson
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 00:17 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote: From the preliminary raw data, I count 100 votes out of 381 eligible voters .. giving us only a 26.24% of participation... I guess the rest just didn't care. Considering the amount of information we had to go through and parse, plus the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Even More Portage Bashrc Fun

2005-06-13 Thread Rumen Yotov
Michael Tindal wrote: Hello, So a long time ago solar wrote a bashrc for portage, and posted it on this mailing list for everyone to see. I took it, and started extending it with various things of my own design, and some contributions from others. I've since updated it with the things solar's