Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Luca Barbato
Dan Meltzer wrote: Forever. Too long for the not infinite space in the server/mirror Gentoo releases mean absolutely nothing, they do absolutely nothing. Beside adding some profiles, deprecating and removing others, provide an updated installation media... The news should stay until th

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Dan Meltzer
Forever. Gentoo releases mean absolutely nothing, they do absolutely nothing. The news should stay until the upgrade occurs On 11/10/05, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:07:37 -0800 Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | What about s

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:07:37 -0800 Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What about something like "/etc/portage/news.read", which contains a | single news file per line. Perhaps have support for something like | "<=2006-01-01" in order to be able to manually mark date ran

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:07:37 -0800 Mike Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What about something like "/etc/portage/news.read", which contains a | single news file per line. Perhaps have support for something like | "<=2006-01-01" in order to be able to manually mark date ranges as | read. Eh, yet a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Mike Owen
On 11/10/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:12:28 + Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Should the GLEP explain how Portage will know how many unread news > | items there are in /var/lib/gentoo/news? I couldn't spot where this > | is covered in

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:12:28 + Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Should the GLEP explain how Portage will know how many unread news | items there are in /var/lib/gentoo/news? I couldn't spot where this | is covered in the text, or in the example code. Well, I was going to go with th

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 00:58 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Feedback from people who have something useful to say would be very much > welcomed, assuming of course that they've read the GLEP. Apologies if this has already been picked up by someone else in this monster thread ;-) Should the GLEP e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council meeting Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 15:18 -0700, Duncan wrote: > Well. given that there's been only one Council meeting, so far, and the > rules are sort of being made as points come up that need addressed, Hrm. According to [1], there has been two meetings so far. There are no agendas for these meetings on

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council meeting Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC

2005-11-10 Thread Duncan
Stuart Herbert posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:40:17 +: > On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 10:11 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> The agenda is generally posted by the chairman after the deadline, on >> both gentoo-council and gentoo-dev. > > Would it be possible to e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 10:11 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > The agenda is generally posted by the chairman after the deadline, on > both gentoo-council and gentoo-dev. Would it be possible to establish a reliable practice on this? I think "Generally" means "sometimes, but not always". Could we ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 21:10 +0100, Grobian wrote: > Users don't care about security[1], adminstrators do. > Administrators don't care about breaking installations[2], users do. That's the problem with sweeping generalisations they're just too general to be of any value in a discussion. > whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 20:11 +0100, Grobian wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up > > for things. > > Doesn't matter. I think it does. I believe that is the root cause of our difficulty in getting news to our users. We rely on o

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Nathan, On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 20:36 -0500, Nathan L. Adams wrote: > So you installed your server without reading *any* documenation? (Don't > lie). And you expect that the average user installs a Gentoo server > without at least referencing the documentation? Pa-leaze. I've been following your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Getting Important Updates To Users

2005-11-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 15:25 +0100, Xavier Neys wrote: > FYI, 81,054 different IPs have hit our front page or the news feed in just 5 > days What happened to my earlier request about visitor numbers? Have you done any clickstream analysis to work out why these people are visiting the site?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Departure of Broeman and Aaby

2005-11-10 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Thursday 10 November 2005 11:26, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 05:57:23PM +0100, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > With a sad heart I must announce that Jesper "broeman" Brodersen and Arne > > "aaby" Mejholm are leaving the Gentoo Documentation Team as the Danish > > translation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Departure of Broeman and Aaby

2005-11-10 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 05:57:23PM +0100, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > With a sad heart I must announce that Jesper "broeman" Brodersen and Arne > "aaby" Mejholm are leaving the Gentoo Documentation Team as the Danish > translation lead/follow-up. They have made the Danish translations quite > active (t

Re: [gentoo-dev] A question about USE flags...

2005-11-10 Thread Michele Noberasco
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:27:09 +0100 Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was read writing: > You can use `built_with_use media-libs/imlib2 X` as defined in > eutils.eclass. Thank you, that worked fine :-) Bye, Michele Noberasco -- With listening comes wisdom, with speaking repentance. pgpS4