Brian Harring posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
excerpted below, on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:49:56 -0800:
> Note I said 'intentional'; seems like people have been pushing for
> gentoo as a whole to slow down (note the enterprise
> concerns/complaints that hit the ml every 6 months for example).
>
> Dunno
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:26:03 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Anyone who thinks Gentoo isn't progressing simply isn't seeing the
| forest for all the trees, as they say. Another way of putting it is
| that Gentoo seems to be in that critical period after the honeymoon,
| it has hit its mi
Torsmo has been inactive upstream for well over a year
http://torsmo.sourceforge.net/changelog.php
The large number of bugs
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=108594&atid=650929
and large number of patches
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=108594&atid=650931
resulted in a fork - con
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 06:31:42 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 04:31:30 + Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | We haven't done anything interesting or innovative over
> | the last...year?
>
> Codswallop. We've done lots of large, innovative changes.
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:09:09 + Tom Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > If you'd like to see more interesting or innovative changes, start
| > by looking into how we can make it easier for developers to
| > advertise what they've been doing.
|
| planet.g.o?
No, that's censored to only display
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 03:58 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
> wrote:
> > Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than
> > a loosely bound group of developers all doing their own thing in a
> > collabor
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 19:57 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:58:57AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
> > wrote:
> > > Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than
> > > a loosely bo
Here are my random two cents
On 1/5/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 19:57 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:58:57AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
> > > wrote:
> >
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:36:09AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Personally, I *love* the fact that the Hardened team has differing goals
> from Release Engineering. I also don't see how our goals could ever
> really be guided by a single vision. That doesn't keep us from working
> together to
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:08:13 +1100
Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I propose removing torsmo and placing a package.move entry so
> that conky will be the logical upgrade (after all it was the same
> code base).
How will users understand what happened to their good old torsmo,
which used to wor
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 04:31 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:57:06PM -0800 or thereabouts, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Which is why Gentoo has jumped the shark and is now on a long, slow
> > > decline.
> >
> > Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline?
>
> Exactl
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 23:33 -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> I like your idea of having gentoo not being a distro, but moreso a
> collection of tools. Mostly because gentoo's method of dealing with
> problems (problems that binary distros tend to have, like keeping
> software uptodate) are handled
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 06:00 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 12:39:05AM -0500 or thereabouts, Alec Warner wrote:
> > I think some people have attempted things that are interesting or
> > innovative, although they may not have gotten off of the ground quite
> > yet.
>
> That's t
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 07:49:21 -0500 Dan Meltzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Apparently it does. How many huge threads have you seen lately that
| accomplished nothing? How many threads have people started with great
| ideas, only to give up in disgust because people cause a huge fuss
| about small
Corey Shields wrote:
GLI a third direction (while kicking anyone who wishes to
run with them in the nuts).
What is your problem with the installer project? Over the past year or so, there
have been *2* people that complained about us treating them badly. The first
person was the genux guy. Wh
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:55:48 +0100
Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it would be better to package.mask it with some comment
> like "Deprecated, masked in favor of app-admin/conky", because
> that's something emerge reports when it makes world updates fail
Oops, no,
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:18:40 -0600 Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| What is your problem with the installer project? Over the past year
| or so, there have been *2* people that complained about us treating
| them badly.
Hrm, have the arch teams really left you in peace for an entire yea
Kurt Lieber wrote:
I agree, but it's been "in development" for...I dunno..almost two years now
I think and it's still not released. I'm not slamming the -installer team
-- I think they're a great bunch of guys, but it does point to our
inability to execute.
If you're not going to do some basic
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 06:00:42 + Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| I agree, but it's been "in development" for...I dunno..almost two
| years now I think and it's still not released. I'm not slamming the
| -installer team -- I think they're a great bunch of guys, but it does
| point to our
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:36:28 +:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:26:03 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Anyone who thinks Gentoo isn't progressing simply isn't seeing the
> | forest for all the trees, as they say. Another way of
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:18:40 -0600 Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| What is your problem with the installer project? Over the past year
| or so, there have been *2* people that complained about us treating
| them badly.
Hrm, have the arch teams really left you i
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 22:05 -0800, Corey Shields wrote:
> Where is the centralized vision that everyone is working together here that
> people not directly related to each project will buy in to and therefore do
> what they can to see it succeed? Where is the collaboration between groups
> to m
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I got other idea but I don't know how to code it.
In ebuild you can set die on some reasons.
So make in conky ebuild which will be package-move of torsmo such error
that if torsmo is installed emerging conky should fail with die. And
user will be asked
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 07:49 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
> > Personally, I *love* the fact that the Hardened team has differing goals
> > from Release Engineering. I also don't see how our goals could ever
> > really be guided by a single vision. That doesn't keep us from working
> > together to eac
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:51:39AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> This is what I don't get. So what if Gentoo is an amoeba? Does it
> really matter? Would you rather that we dropped Gentoo/ALT, Hardened,
> Embedded, and anything else interesting just so we can focus on a "core
>
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 14:22 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:51:39AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
> wrote:
> > This is what I don't get. So what if Gentoo is an amoeba? Does it
> > really matter? Would you rather that we dropped Gentoo/ALT, Hardened,
> > Embedded
On Thursday 05 January 2006 13:24, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> No, that's censored to only display what certain people want it to say
> rather than the truth of what's going on.
planet.gentoo.org/universe ?
I have yet to see anything, from rants to personal notes, that didn't got
there (for what I've
On 1/5/06, Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Maybe you have a different vision for Gentoo. If so, I respect that, butplease don't accuse me of trying to hijack anything. I expressed an
opinion and you took my words and twisted them against me. This is aperfect example of why Gentoo's never
On 1/5/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So what is Gentoo to you? Portage? Gentoo Linux?
From www.gentoo.org:
Page title: "Gentoo Linux - Gentoo Linux News"
"We produce Gentoo Linux, a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically optimized and customized for just about any
Nerry there now... Changes:
* Due to overwhelming demand (it's the thing in this GLEP that has
generated least contention!), spaces are not allowed in repository
names.
* Colons aren't allowed in repository or file names either, since
they're not going to be allowed in package names (see
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Really, I don't have any vision for Gentoo and I like it that way.
Amazing words to come from Gentoo's release manager. We might as well
call our releases 'maintenance updates' then if thats the case.
I give up on this whole thread. I was hoping people would see past t
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 08:07:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Sounds like you'd rather take Gentoo back a few years to the days before
> Hardened/Embedded/Alt. I guess we really should just be "Gentoo Linux"
> and ignore all of the progress and work that has been made in all o
On Thursday 05 January 2006 15:59, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Page title: "Gentoo Linux - Gentoo Linux News"
Yeah ok, let me end up these holidays, and I'll prepare a written request to
change the Linux part in something else (Land if you want to keep the L, or
I'll try to find a name we can use)...
Hi all,
as the debate about the future direction of Gentoo continues it's
getting more and more obvious to me that there's a lack of information
skewing the debate. It seems that while most devs (and users) have a
good idea what's happening in "their" projects it's quite difficult to
see what is h
Patrick Lauer wrote:
Hi all,
as the debate about the future direction of Gentoo continues it's
getting more and more obvious to me that there's a lack of information
skewing the debate. It seems that while most devs (and users) have a
good idea what's happening in "their" projects it's quite d
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:42 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> > Really, I don't have any vision for Gentoo and I like it that way.
> Amazing words to come from Gentoo's release manager. We might as well
> call our releases 'maintenance updates' then if thats the case.
I
Hi Patrick,
On 1/5/06, Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I suggest project updates every 6 months (which roughly is the sametimeframe as releases)Maybe this helps people get a "global vision" of where Gentoo is and
where it's going.
Didn't the new metastructure place requirements on projec
On 05-01-2006 17:00:15 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> So - as GWN monkey - I'm offering my services as aggregator for project
> updates. Maybe someone from the doc project wants to help to get this
> information put on the website so that it's visible?
The following crossed my mind: what about a De
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:20:09 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| It's getting more and more difficult to get things done, more and
| more people / groups / herds to wait on to decide "obvious" things.
Hrm, it is? Seems to me that it's no worse that it used to be. It's
just that the st
On 01 Jan 2006 05:30:01 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
| vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
| Gentoo dev list to see.
Could you discuss adopting one of the clauses I proposed in the "RFC:
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 15:51 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 08:07:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
> wrote:
> > Sounds like you'd rather take Gentoo back a few years to the days before
> > Hardened/Embedded/Alt. I guess we really should just be "Gentoo Linux"
> > an
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:28:13 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I'm thinking of quite dull news, so absolutely not meant to be a
| publication like GWN, but just thingis like some commits on the
| portage sources that say to fix/implement X, a discussion on project
| ML Y working on Z.
Woul
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:42 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> > Really, I don't have any vision for Gentoo and I like it that way.
>
> Amazing words to come from Gentoo's release manager. We might as well
> call our releases 'maintenance updates' then if thats the case.
On 05-01-2006 16:41:12 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:28:13 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm thinking of quite dull news, so absolutely not meant to be a
> | publication like GWN, but just thingis like some commits on the
> | portage sources that say to fix/im
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:41 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:28:13 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm thinking of quite dull news, so absolutely not meant to be a
> | publication like GWN, but just thingis like some commits on the
> | portage sources that say to f
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 17:00 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> So - as GWN monkey - I'm offering my services as aggregator for project
> updates. Maybe someone from the doc project wants to help to get this
> information put on the website so that it's visible?
Funny enough... I was working on this and
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:33 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:20:09 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | It's getting more and more difficult to get things done, more and
> | more people / groups / herds to wait on to decide "obvious" things.
>
> Hrm, it is? Se
On 1/5/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That says to me exactly what I stated that you said. Whether that wasyour intention or not, I honestly do not know. However, I am not
putting words into your mouth, I am simply restating what you are sayingafter my interpretation of it.
For
Hi Lance,
You started this thread by proposing that: (1) Gentoo is lacking
a direction/goal, (2) this is supported by the lack of ground breaking
enhancements in the past couple of years. Later in the thread you
proposed that (3) the solution may be to appoint a single person to
provide a global
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:37:32AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> That says to me exactly what I stated that you said.
Then it's apparent we're not communicating well. I'll leave it at that,
thank you for sharing your opinions and put this thread to bed.
--kurt
pgpjVmOU25lrv
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:42 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> > Really, I don't have any vision for Gentoo and I like it that way.
I know you meant this as sarcasm - but i'd second that. I originally
favored just calling them snapshots since that's all the iso's were -
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:46 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Thursday 05 January 2006 15:59, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > Page title: "Gentoo Linux - Gentoo Linux News"
> Yeah ok, let me end up these holidays, and I'll prepare a written request to
> change the Linux part in something else
Hi all,
The following are just my opinions/summaries:
1) It appears that the most dissatisfied devs are those
who have been proponents of the "enterprise" aspect
of gentoo. When they say that not much has been
accomplished in the last 2 years, I think you have to
look at it from the enterprise
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:56:30AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> You guys are more than welcome to go apply at Red Hat or Novell.
Some of us already work for companies that produce other Linux
distributions or support the companies that do. :)
thanks,
greg k-h
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mai
Matthew Marlowe wrote:
Hi all,
The following are just my opinions/summaries:
1) It appears that the most dissatisfied devs are those
who have been proponents of the "enterprise" aspect
of gentoo. When they say that not much has been
accomplished in the last 2 years, I think you have to
loo
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
| Funny enough... I was working on this and forgot to send it out.
|
| I was planning on posting it also on the Release Engineering page, but
| need to turn it into GuideXML first.
Might want to run it through spellcheck first
On Thursday 05 January 2006 11:26, Duncan wrote:
> This man speaks my mind. That's one of the things I'm worried about with
> the Enterprise Gentoo thing, and why I think it will make a better
> separate project than part of Gentoo itself.
I agree mostly, too. Just that QA has more aspects than "
On Thursday 05 January 2006 16:46, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Yeah ok, let me end up these holidays, and I'll prepare a written request
> to change the Linux part in something else
You should also contact the folks working on the gentoo.org redesign. While
there was a bit of fuss about th
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 17:00 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as the debate about the future direction of Gentoo continues it's
> getting more and more obvious to me that there's a lack of information
> skewing the debate. It seems that while most devs (and users) have a
> good idea what's
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 10:00:08AM -0800, Matthew Marlowe wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The following are just my opinions/summaries:
>
> 1) It appears that the most dissatisfied devs are those
> who have been proponents of the "enterprise" aspect
> of gentoo. When they say that not much has been
> acco
Hi Kurt,
Kurt Lieber wrote: [Wed Jan 04 2006, 11:31:30PM EST]
> > Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline?
>
> Exactly what a lot of folks will have kittens about; appoint a CEO,
> leader, boss, manager, etc. (you know, all those corporate-type
> words that raise the ha
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> So - as GWN monkey - I'm offering my services as aggregator for project
> updates.
I'd rather see the project managers/bosses/dedicated_members doing that
themselves. Fine example might be GDP updates which work quite well, IMHO.
> Maybe someone from the doc project wants t
Flameeyes, blubb, dostrow - what about publishing your recent blog
entries as the official news from your projects?
WKR,
-jkt
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:09:09 + Tom Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > If you'd like to see more interesting or innovative changes, start
| > by looking into how we can make it easier for developers to
| > advertise what they've been doing.
|
| planet.g.o?
No, that'
step 1.
package.mask torsmo
step 2.
get conky the same stable keywords as torsmo
step 3.
put a pre and post install on conky saying you may have got here from torsmo.
step 4.
package.move torsmo -> conky
step 5.
be happy that users have been aware of the changes,
be happy that users now have
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 17:04 -0500, Curtis Napier wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:09:09 + Tom Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | > If you'd like to see more interesting or innovative changes, start
> > | > by looking into how we can make it easier for developers to
* Daniel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> step 4.
> package.move torsmo -> conky
This will do _bad_ things if someone has both installed
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Heya Matt,
On 1/5/06, Matthew Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Other than small improvements,
> I'm not sure anything positive has happened. If anything,
> Gentoo appears to be heading more in the "desktop"
> and "hobbyist" direction.
Server-orientated activities have historically never had
On Thursday 05 January 2006 23:04, Curtis Napier wrote:
> > No, that's censored to only display what certain people want it to say
> > rather than the truth of what's going on.
>
> Censored? Please expand on this, how is it censored? I thought we were
> allowed to put anything Gentoo related we wan
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:39:13 +0100
Thomas Matthijs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Daniel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > step 4.
> > package.move torsmo -> conky
>
> This will do _bad_ things if someone has both installed
>
Bah, here it's ~ okay because torsmo versions are lower than the
ones
As I am being hounded by genstef and users for this in the tree, I am
making one more attempt to give everyone a chance to give input on
mozextension.eclass . If I hear nothing of major issue would like to add
to the tree on the 8th of January.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/eclass/mozextension.ec
Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Thursday 05 January 2006 16:46, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
Yeah ok, let me end up these holidays, and I'll prepare a written request
to change the Linux part in something else
You should also contact the folks working on the gentoo.org redesign. While
there wa
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 04:31:30AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:57:06PM -0800 or thereabouts, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Which is why Gentoo has jumped the shark and is now on a long, slow
> > > decline.
> >
> > Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline?
>
>
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Jory A. Pratt wrote:
> As I am being hounded by genstef and users for this in the tree, I am
> making one more attempt to give everyone a chance to give input on
> mozextension.eclass . If I hear nothing of major issue would like to add
> to the tree o
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 04:31:30AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> appoint a CEO, leader, boss, manager, etc. all those corporate-type words
> that raise the hackles of nearly everyone on this list.
> We have no effective leadership whatsoever. We spend far too much time
> arguing among ourselves inst
Hi, I was recently reading this post [1] about gentoo's future, it
mentioned a few items in relation to enterprise Gentoo, and that it
currently needs features that just aren't available yet.
One such example of a feature thats not available yet is GLEP 19: Gentoo
Stable Tree [2].
Now, I notic
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:23:07PM -0500 or thereabouts, Philip Webb wrote:
> The final line suggests the writer has no serious interest in Gentoo.
Do your research. You know not of what you speak.
> "Appoint one person to lead": the Germans did that back in 1933
Excellent. I declare Godwin's
noticed something that doesn't make any sense:
Andrew Muraco wrote:
- the existing portage code would consider +arch as a subset of arch,
the reason both keywords will exist is to maintain compatibility with
older versions of portage which will not recognize this.
would make more sense as:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:11:38PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Nerry there now... Changes:
>
> * Due to overwhelming demand (it's the thing in this GLEP that has
> generated least contention!), spaces are not allowed in repository
> names.
+1 on this revision, although I demand a pony
Brian Harring wrote:
+1 on this revision, although I demand a pony.
+1, w/out pony.
lu
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On Tuesday 03 January 2006 11:05, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [Sun Jan 01 2006, 05:35:26PM CST]
> > On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 05:30:01AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
> > > vote on, let us know ! Simply re
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:52:22PM -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> noticed something that doesn't make any sense:
>
> Andrew Muraco wrote:
>
> >- the existing portage code would consider +arch as a subset of arch,
> >the reason both keywords will exist is to maintain compatibility with
> >older v
On Thursday 05 January 2006 10:11, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
> I might end up being offline over the weekend (and possibly for a while
> after that too...), but I'll get around to any feedback as soon as I
> can...
While it is entirely nitpicking at this point as I understand what you meant:
Under
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:42:36PM -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> Anyways, I would personally like to see if this can stir some interest.
> I would be willing to help test and help make this GLEP a reality,
> however I can not implement this myself as I lack python skills, but I
> do want to help
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