[gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2006-01-08 Thread Daniel Ahlberg
Hi, This is an automatically created email message. http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable has just been updated with 13973 ebuilds. The page shows results from a number of tests that are run against the ebuilds. The tests are: * if a version has been masked for 30 days or more. * if an arch was in KE

Re: [gentoo-dev] [dRFC] slotted mysql ready

2006-01-08 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Francesco Riosa wrote: > Background, to make life easyer for people that use more versions of > mysql (and just for fun) MySQL is going to be slotted. > > Currently the slot enabled versions are mysql-4.1.16-r30 > mysql-5.0.18-r30 mysql-5.1.4_alpha-r30, in short those with "-r30". > > The few pat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/phpmp

2006-01-08 Thread Jason Wever
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:44:22 + Renat Lumpau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > www-apps/phpmp has been package masked and will be removed from the > tree in about a week. It is being superseded by www-apps/phpmp2. > Please post comments to http://bugs.gentoo.org/74951 In the future, if you are goin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:30:16PM +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > > We could start a public wiki displaying all herds and projects. It would > > > be great to add some low level docs, herds/project goals, ideas and so. > > > Even the use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:59:40 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I originally thought of putting it on my devspace, but using GuideXML > there is a bit tricky, at least for me (as xsltproc seems to refuse > working on the pure xml directly). > > So I was thinking if we h

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag. Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it. (fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it) lu [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implementation [2] http://packages.g

[gentoo-dev] [dRFC] slotted mysql ready

2006-01-08 Thread Francesco Riosa
Background, to make life easyer for people that use more versions of mysql (and just for fun) MySQL is going to be slotted. Currently the slot enabled versions are mysql-4.1.16-r30 mysql-5.0.18-r30 mysql-5.1.4_alpha-r30, in short those with "-r30". The few patches needed are already included in c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > We could start a public wiki displaying all herds and projects. It would > > be great to add some low level docs, herds/project goals, ideas and so. > > Even the users could be allowed to edit and share information. > > Anything like th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: > Luis Medinas wrote: > >>On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > > I had thought about creating some kind of a site like this, but not > necessarily in a wiki form. I don't like the idea of letting user

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 08 January 2006 19:07, Renat Lumpau wrote: > Devwiki i thought of devwiki when I started writing Gentoo/Alt documentation. I then discarded the idea for a series of reason, the first of which is the one already stated by Brian, that the docs results unreadable by non-devs, and also not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 13:31 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > Indeed it's GDP area but to expose project goals, status and low level > > docs isn't even related with GDP. We can't maintain the high level of > > docs like GDP does and it's not even your goal. I think the public wiki > > idea will im

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Luis Medinas wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > Devwiki is effectively inaccesable to non gentoo folks (whether in access, or in navigating the beast), thus it's a no go. Any docs generated should be googable imo. >>> >>> >>>We could start a publ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>Devwiki is effectively inaccesable to non gentoo folks (whether in > >>access, or in navigating the beast), thus it's a no go. > >> > >>Any docs generated should be googable imo. > > > > > > We could start a public wiki displaying all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Luis Medinas wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 10:31 -0800, Brian Harring wrote: > >>On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:07:48PM +, Renat Lumpau wrote: >> >>>On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: >>> GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:07:48PM +, Renat Lumpau wrote: > >>On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: >> >>>GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly >>>developer-oriented, they might be better accessed directly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 10:31 -0800, Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:07:48PM +, Renat Lumpau wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: > > > GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly > > > developer-oriented, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:07:48PM +, Renat Lumpau wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: > > GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly > > developer-oriented, they might be better accessed directly by devs (at > > least > >

[gentoo-dev] Meeting summary: Web-Apps Herd, January 2006

2006-01-08 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, The minutes of the Web-Apps Herd's January meeting are now available [1], including a full log if anyone needs it. It was a busy meeting, with 12 separate agenda items delt with. We elected project leads, agreed who would deal with a number of problematic ebuilds, and started looking at esta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Renat Lumpau
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: > GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly > developer-oriented, they might be better accessed directly by devs (at least > for the first steps until they are drafts). > > What people think about t

[gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Okay let's forget the flames and talk about something related to practical development today :) As people reading my blog might already know, I've been experimenting with --as-needed LDFLAG in the past days. It seems pretty stable when you don't have GNOME installed (as many libraries from GNOM

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>A few rough ideas that just popped in my >>head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even >>sure if thats feasible) >>, or creating a hashed suffix based upon the >>useflags enab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > A few rough ideas that just popped in my > head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even > sure if thats feasible) Ugly, binpkgs are bzip2ed tarballs + xpak at the end of the bzip2 stream, jamming multipl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >> >> >>I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on >>the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we >>need to be able to have multiple binpkg's of the same ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 42 (news) Round Seven

2006-01-08 Thread Jan Kundrát
Brian Harring wrote: > It's not an issue. Okay, if it will just somehow show up when using the --ask option, I'll be happy :). Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-08 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Luca Barbato wrote: > I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag. > > Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it. > > (fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it) > > lu > > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implementation > [2] http://packages.gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-08 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Sunday 08 January 2006 15:01, Brian Harring wrote: > Guessing you missed the previous flame war about how trying to force > people to do something doesn't actually work? When it's not common sense, that every dev is supposed to do a minimal on general QA, Gentoo has a problem. > You're assumi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Muraco wrote: | Another thing that I don't like, is the feel of this method does seem | "offical" enough.. mostly because portage is not 'stable'-aware, Its | just using a stripped down tree. What do you want then? If an entire standalone tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 14:40 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > If you feel so strongly about this, why not setup a "cleaning crew" > > project that goes around doing exactly this? > > Don't you think that it is pretty much barefaced to let a small group do the > dirty, boring and annoying work, whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-08 Thread Paweł Madej
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 01:35, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > > > As Donnie already pointed out, I did not mean version bumps, but only new > packages. How about this idea: Everyone who adds a new package, has to check > and f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > > I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on > the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we > need to be able to have multiple binpkg's of the same version depending > on differen

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 18:11 -0500, Olivier Crete wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-01 at 09:39 -0800, Brian Harring wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 10:05:49AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:00 +, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > > > > On 06/01/06, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 02:40:47PM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Sunday 08 January 2006 01:35, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > I agree that some cleaning is needed (and some of my packages are > > desperate for it!), but I'm totally opposed to this idea. I think the > > idea of shutting up shop for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-08 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Sunday 08 January 2006 01:35, Stuart Herbert wrote: > I agree that some cleaning is needed (and some of my packages are > desperate for it!), but I'm totally opposed to this idea. I think the > idea of shutting up shop for three months (presumably with a "closed > for refurbishment" sign on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-08 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Sunday 08 January 2006 01:38, Brian Harring wrote: > Asking people to focus on cleaning the tree? Sure. Generate a list > of candidates would help. Blocking new packages? No... I can't say I did not expect negative replies and "generating a list of candidates" is at least a suggestion. But

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid should be demoted to ~mips

2006-01-08 Thread Carsten Lohrke
You don't have to care, Alin. Mips is not among the security-wise supported¹ architectures. Then only problem I see in general is, that every single subproject defines what is supported and the information is scattered on the different gentoo.org documentation pages (release, security, kernel,.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ebuilds for GCC

2006-01-08 Thread Kumba
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Hi, there has been a lengthy discussion on bugzilla ([1]), about the best packaging method for the gnat Ada compiler. The outcome seems to be that gnat will still have its own ebuild in the future and not be part of the GCC ebuild. It also has a mention that gcj will eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst{,2} and 2006.0

2006-01-08 Thread Kumba
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Yes, thes examples are quite good, however as I said before, real (=working) examples weere needed. (note to /me => `emerge -s livecd && emerge -a livecd-specs livecd-kconfigs`) Working specs can be found in our ViewCVS in gentoo/src/releng/specs. Therein are containe

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Tobias Matzat (SirSeoman)

2006-01-08 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 23:55 +0100, Wernfried Haas wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 11:25:57PM +0100, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > > Yo, Welcome Tobias! > > Oh no, not another Tobias! Isn't it a beautiful name? :P Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part