[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Duncan
Grobian posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:48:32 +0100: .. [3] For the purpose of readability, we will refer to 1, 2 and 4-tuples, even though tuple in itself suggest a field consisting of two values. For clarity: a 1-tuple describes a single value field,

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-db/dybase

2006-02-10 Thread Jakub Moc
For those who wonder wth is that... Description: DyBASE is very simple object oriented embedded database for languages with dynamic type checking. The ebuild lacks a maintainer, is completely bogus and fubar, a.k.a. doesn't work at all and needs complete rewrite to work with dev-lang/php. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 10 February 2006 09:00, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: Could you add a definition of 'safe' to the GLEP?  It's not clear what this means at the moment. Variables that can be counted on, as users can't change them in unexpectable ways without hacking the tree :) -- Diego Flameeyes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:30:40 -0700 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, despite the given reasoning, I found this distracting. Perhaps this is one of Ciaran's English readability suggestions, but is there a reason not to s/segment/tuple/g ? That seems to me more accurate, segment is more

[gentoo-dev] amd64 perl-5.8.8 perl-cleaner

2006-02-10 Thread Michael Cummings
Hey kids, It's always something...perl-5.8.8 (~arch) is our first perl install that correctly utilizes /usr/lib64. In itself, a good thing, but the @INC that gets generated is geared towards /usr/lib64 (still a good thing), but as such perl-cleaner gets confused because your old perl

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-lang/nhc98

2006-02-10 Thread Duncan Coutts
nhc98 is a Haskell compiler. This package has been masked for several months because its memory management system makes assumptions that are no longer true on 2.6 kernels. This is not easily fixable and the upstream devs no not have the time or inclination to rewrite the runtime system. See also

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-haskell/hugs98-graphics

2006-02-10 Thread Duncan Coutts
This package provides a simple graphics library for use with the hugs98 Haskell interpreter. It doesn't work with the older versions of hugs98 that are in portage. While it does work with newer versions of hugs98 it is unnecessary there because they come bundled with an updated version of the

OT: Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-lang/nhc98

2006-02-10 Thread Andrej Kacian
Duncan Coutts wrote: nhc98 is a Haskell compiler. This package has been masked for several months because its memory management system makes assumptions that are no longer true on 2.6 kernels. This is not easily fixable and the upstream devs no not have the time or inclination to rewrite the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Olivier Crête
On Fri, 2006-10-02 at 10:33 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: Otherwise, I suggest to p.mask this in two weeks and then remove from portage. Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ? -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 decision delayed (was: Gentoo Council Meeting Summary (20060209))

2006-02-10 Thread solar
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 22:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 09 February 2006 22:05, Ned Ludd wrote: I would like to see it drop the tab handling for indicating newlines and just use a real newlines when we want a newline. While having the tabs makes it easier for people to read

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 decision delayed (was: Gentoo Council Meeting Summary (20060209))

2006-02-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 03:17 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:05:35 -0500 Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The words AUXFILE EBUILD MISCFILE DISTFILE could be using shorter | names such as AUX EBD MSC DST like the existing vdb CONTENTS | files does for objects dirs and

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Jakub Moc
10.2.2006, 14:56:58, Olivier Crete wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-02 at 10:33 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: Otherwise, I suggest to p.mask this in two weeks and then remove from portage. Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ? Not that I would know... Anyway, nls can be fixed by using

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Grobian
On 09-02-2006 23:50:08 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:48:32 +0100 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of proposing a 4-tuple [3]_ keyword, a 2-tuple keyword is chosen for archs that require them. Provision should be made for future ports that require more than two

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Grobian
On 10-02-2006 00:38:47 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:26:11 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming the CHOST variable is 'safe' is not a good thing, users can over-ride this variable. Can you specify some behavior when it's set to something bogus (

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Grobian
On 10-02-2006 11:00:33 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten wrote: On Friday 10 February 2006 09:00, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: Could you add a definition of 'safe' to the GLEP?  It's not clear what this means at the moment. Variables that can be counted on, as users can't change them in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Grobian
On 10-02-2006 01:30:40 -0700, Duncan wrote: Grobian posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:48:32 +0100: .. [3] For the purpose of readability, we will refer to 1, 2 and 4-tuples, even though tuple in itself suggest a field consisting of two values. For

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Olivier Crête wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-02 at 10:33 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: Otherwise, I suggest to p.mask this in two weeks and then remove from portage. Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ? There's a bug for LAT -- http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86854 -- but the

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Jakub Moc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 10.2.2006, 20:03:45, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Olivier Crete wrote: Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ? There's a bug for LAT -- http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86854 -- but the current assignee apparently doesn't want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Michael Hanselmann
Hello Jakub On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:33:52AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: GTK-based LDAP client. This thing has no maintainer, is broken and dead upstream (unmaintained, last release 2+ ago). I don't think it makes huge sense to keep it, even if it worked for me for the last three years or so.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 decision delayed (was: Gentoo Council Meeting Summary (20060209))

2006-02-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:14:26 -0500 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 03:17 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:05:35 -0500 Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | | The words AUXFILE EBUILD MISCFILE DISTFILE could be using shorter | | names such

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:25:47 +0100 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 09-02-2006 23:50:08 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:48:32 +0100 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | Instead of proposing a 4-tuple [3]_ keyword, a 2-tuple | keyword is chosen for archs that

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 10 February 2006 21:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: kfreebsd-gnu is, in effect, one example you're using already. You'd have x86 as the arch, FreeBSD as the kernel and GNU as the userland. x86-kfbsd I can't see other kfbsd cases for now. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò -

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:44:11 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Friday 10 February 2006 21:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | kfreebsd-gnu is, in effect, one example you're using already. You'd | have x86 as the arch, FreeBSD as the kernel and GNU as the userland. | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 10 February 2006 22:05, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: See, you're saying two should be enough and then special casing when two isn't enough. Why not just go for two is usually enough, but use three where necessary? On Friday 10 February 2006 01:44, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Although

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2006-02-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:27:56 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html This will NOT be voted upon the

[gentoo-dev] Apache: old-style configuration end-of-life

2006-02-10 Thread Michael Stewart (vericgar)
This is a heads up for anyone that hasn't seen the notices placed in various places... On March 1, the old-style configuration of apache will no longer be supported, in favor of the new-style configuration which was marked stable back in October. If you haven't upgraded, now is the time to do so.

[gentoo-dev] Request for Comment

2006-02-10 Thread Klaus-J. Wolf
Hi, I am new to this list, but I am not new to Gentoo. Would you please discuss a GLEP draft, which I believe it might improve the usability of Gentoo? Text at: http://www.seismic.de/gentoo/gentoo_mask_proposal.html Technical details still missing... Regards k.j. ps. I can also post the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for Comment

2006-02-10 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 2/10/06, Klaus-J. Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am new to this list, but I am not new to Gentoo. Would you please discuss a GLEP draft, which I believe it might improve the usability of Gentoo? Text at: http://www.seismic.de/gentoo/gentoo_mask_proposal.html Seems like a huge

[gentoo-dev] Re: Request for Comment

2006-02-10 Thread Duncan
Klaus-J. Wolf posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:37:25 +0100: Would you please discuss a GLEP draft, which I believe it might improve the usability of Gentoo? Text at: http://www.seismic.de/gentoo/gentoo_mask_proposal.html I'm just a user, not a dev,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Grobian
On 10-02-2006 20:22:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:25:47 +0100 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 09-02-2006 23:50:08 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:48:32 +0100 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | Instead of proposing a 4-tuple [3]_