Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New metastructure proposal

2007-04-12 Thread Roy Marples
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:11:33 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a lot of the problems with those other distributions and their 3rd party repositories is related to the fact that they are binary-based distributions and we are not. ever put that to the test and build

[gentoo-dev] Introducing the proctors

2007-04-12 Thread Wernfried Haas
Hi everyone, Recently the Code of Conduct was established, and it's about time to present the initial team of people working on getting things done: Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) Joshua Jackson (tsunam) and myself. We are currently in the process of bringing in some more people to gain a team that

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-fs/ext2resize out like a trout

2007-04-12 Thread Timothy Redaelli
Mike Frysinger ha scritto: e2fsprogs has integrated resize2fs now so no point in keeping around the old unmaintained ext2resize - punt You should package.mask it for one month -- Timothy `Drizzt` Redaelli - http://dev.gentoo.org/~drizzt/ FreeSBIE Developer, Gentoo Developer, GUFI Staff There

[gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Walter
I just emerge'd traceroute, dropped back to my normal user, and it didn't run. So, I checked the emerge messages and saw this: snip! * SetUID: [chmod go-r] /var/tmp/portage/net-analyzer/traceroute-1.4_p12-r5/image//usr/sbin/traceroute ... [ ok ]

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Jonathan Adamczewski
Jeff Walter wrote: I can understand traceroute being setuid, but why put it in /usr/sbin so only root sees it? Huh? Just add /usr/sbin to your PATH. $ export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin $ traceroute Version 1.4a12 Usage: traceroute [-dFInrvx] [-g gateway] [-i iface] [-f first_ttl] [-m

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
On 4/12/07, Jonathan Adamczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Walter wrote: I can understand traceroute being setuid, but why put it in /usr/sbin so only root sees it? That is not a clean solution. Do we have to presume that traceroute has to be used like ifconfig, or is it the real

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Rob C
On 12/04/07, Jonathan Adamczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Walter wrote: I can understand traceroute being setuid, but why put it in /usr/sbin so only root sees it? Huh? Just add /usr/sbin to your PATH. $ export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin $ traceroute Version 1.4a12 Usage: traceroute

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-fs/ext2resize out like a trout

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Timothy Redaelli wrote: Mike Frysinger ha scritto: e2fsprogs has integrated resize2fs now so no point in keeping around the old unmaintained ext2resize - punt You should package.mask it for one month it is in package.mask -mike pgp9eum8UJ1ja.pgp Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Jeff Walter wrote: I can understand traceroute being setuid, but why put it in /usr/sbin so only root sees it? If we only want root to run it, it doesn't need to be setuid. It just doesn't make sense for a setuid application to only be directly available to root.

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Timothy Redaelli
Mike Frysinger ha scritto: On Thursday 12 April 2007, Jeff Walter wrote: I can understand traceroute being setuid, but why put it in /usr/sbin so only root sees it? If we only want root to run it, it doesn't need to be setuid. It just doesn't make sense for a setuid application to only be

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Walter
Mike Frysinger wrote: this package has always sucked ... it needs to be punted for the newer one at http://dmitry.butskoy.name/traceroute -mike :-) Well, that's a separate subject all together. I'm just talking about placement of the binary. -- Jeff Walter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Walter
Rob C wrote: Although Jonathan is correct in pointing out that you can modify the search path, this is not really a valid response... Traceroute is heavily used by many people and therefore I don't think its reasonable to place it somewhere in the file system that a typical user does not

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Timothy Redaelli wrote: You should (also) fix net-misc/iputils for /usr/sbin/traceroute6 yes maybe it's better to create a dedicate ebuild for traceroute6? no -mike pgphDuLQKdIMc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Jeff Walter wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: this package has always sucked ... it needs to be punted for the newer one at http://dmitry.butskoy.name/traceroute Well, that's a separate subject all together. I'm just talking about placement of the binary. i'm not

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-analyzer/traceroute merge strangeness

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Walter
Mike Frysinger wrote: i'm not going to fix just the path issue, i'm going to do em both in one sweep -mike Well, you won't find me complaining. ;-) -- Jeff Walter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-12 Thread Torsten Veller
* Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 15:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: another one i had mentioned earlier: - a time frame on moving gentoo-core to public archives ... two years ? I object and hope this is never done. Me too. What is the motivation for this change? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Torsten Veller wrote: * Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 15:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: another one i had mentioned earlier: - a time frame on moving gentoo-core to public archives ... two years ? I object and hope this is never

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-12 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:54:23 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally prefer the first option here, but others think full public transparency would be nice, and after ${time_period} most of the info on -core isn't nearly as 'sensitive' as it is when first posted. If something's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-12 Thread Jim Ramsay
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: If something's supposed to be transparent, it shouldn't be on -core. And, conversely, if something's on -core, it's not supposed to be transparent. Opening up -core just makes it harder to handle those rare cases where things really are required to be restricted. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:04 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Instead, why not look into reducing the amount of traffic on -core? Actually, the amount of traffic on -core these days has been pretty minimal. In some weeks, the only messages setn are my GWN proofreading requests. Sure, there are

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Foundation Mentor

2007-04-12 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
Hiya Arockiasamy, Thank you for your email and congratulations on being selected for Summer of Code this year. I'm Christel, one of the SoC administrators for Gentoo. I will be e-mailing all accepted students over the next few hours with information. Until then, take care and I am sure we will

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-java/jdbc3-postgresql

2007-04-12 Thread Petteri Räty
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy jdbc3-postgresql have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-java/jdbc3-postgresql-7.3-r1 (masked by: package.mask) # Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] (13 Apr 2007) # Use dev-java/jdbc-postgresql instead.

[gentoo-dev] April Council meeting summary

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
to - a large majority of developers and users prefer the single tree development style that Gentoo has versus many smaller trees full log at the normal place: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20070412.txt -mike pgpNz5XSBwIAO.pgp Description: PGP signature