Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-4.4 unmasking soon

2009-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
Ryan Hill wrote: It's best to keep the number of external packages needed to build the toolchain to a bare minimum. Anything that isn't a hard requirement should be a USE flag. We also need to be able to bootstrap without a C++ compiler, which one of graphite's dependencies (PPL) needs.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 23:55 -0600 schrieb Ryan Hill: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:55:22 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need to propose it for EAPI 4 if you want that. Why is that (seriously curious, not disagreeing)? Portage has supported this for quite a while now. Does the

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Bateman
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com writes: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarabeus at gentoo.org wrote: Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage already handles it right). That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 + (UTC) Mark Bateman coul...@soon.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarabeus at gentoo.org wrote: Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage already handles it right). That's a seperate thing that needs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Tiziano Müllerdev-z...@gentoo.org wrote: To avoid collision with the current package.mask I'd prefer package.mask.d/ for the directory. Also makes the transition easy since we can generate package.mask out of the files in package.mask.d/. I completely agree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Thursday 13 of August 2009 12:35:43 Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 23:55 -0600 schrieb Ryan Hill: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-13 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote: An ebuild for manServer is in the pipeline, currently waiting for the next reply from upstream. manServer ebuild here, new 1.08 release from upstream http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git;a=tree;f=app-text/manserver Sebastian

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Bateman
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com writes: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 + (UTC) Mark Bateman couldbe at soon.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarabeus at gentoo.org wrote: Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:32:56 + (UTC) Mark Bateman coul...@soon.com wrote: It is not the business of PMS to enforce undocumented features that Portage supports only by accident and that aren't used in the tree. PMS doesn't depict just what portage should do, just what ebuild's in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devaway for me, for a whole year period(military service)

2009-08-13 Thread Ben de Groot
Markos Chandras wrote: Now, it is my time to say goodbye ( but not forever ) . I am *forced* to join the greek army from 16/8/2009 until May 2010. So I wont be active during this period. When I come back, I expect a more shiny Gentoo which will provide great experiences to our users. So

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Bateman
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com writes: PMS documents what ebuilds may or may not rely upon from the package manager. PMS, like the Portage document, says that package.mask is a file. And main tree ebuild can rely on that. There are no directory-based package.mask in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:06:04 + (UTC) Mark Bateman coul...@soon.com wrote: And it shouldn't be until it's gone through the proper process to become a documented, controlled feature rather than an accident people are exploiting. Seriously, this isn't difficult to do. I get the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Steven J Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 + (UTC) Mark Bateman coul...@soon.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarabeus at gentoo.org wrote: Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage already handles it right). That's a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:22:16 +0100 Steven J Long sl...@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk wrote: PMS accurately reflects the Portage documentation and the commit message that introduced the feature -- it's purely for use in /etc/portage/, which is beyond the scope of PMS. If it's pre-EAPI it's part of

Re: [gentoo-dev] base/use.defaults

2009-08-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 13:13:27 Samuli Suominen wrote: Do we still need it? It appears to be very unmaintained. And if there's 3rd party tools that still need it, I wouldn't count them qualifying. Suggestion: cvs remove -f it's been deprecated for pretty much ever (it was known to be

[gentoo-dev] cvs remove -fR gentoo-x86/profiles/obsolete

2009-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
profiles/obsolete will be gone inside ~24 hours from posting this mail thanks, Samuli

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GSoC status] Web-based image builder

2009-08-13 Thread Eitan Mosenkis
This week is my last for SoC this summer, so unless I do something groundbreaking tomorrow, this will be my last status report. I was hoping to be able to show off a working server with Ingenue running on it by this time, but I'm still waiting for all the difficulties with getting a root-access

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-4.4 unmasking soon

2009-08-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:27:26 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: Ryan Hill wrote: It's best to keep the number of external packages needed to build the toolchain to a bare minimum. Anything that isn't a hard requirement should be a USE flag. We also need to be able to

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:29:04 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:55:22 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need to propose it for EAPI 4 if you want that. Why is that