[gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, As many of us already raged, the Python eclasses are delaying half a year with support of EAPI=4. The reason for that is not actually the lack of time or complexity of needed changes but willingness to use the new EAPI as an excuse to turn the eclass API upside down. The question I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 27-07-2011 a las 09:39 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Hello, As many of us already raged, the Python eclasses are delaying half a year with support of EAPI=4. The reason for that is not actually the lack of time or complexity of needed changes but willingness to use the new EAPI as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 27-07-2011 a las 09:39 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Hello, As many of us already raged, the Python eclasses are delaying half a year with support of EAPI=4. The reason for that is not actually the lack of time or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:39 Wed 27 Jul , Michał Górny wrote: As many of us already raged, the Python eclasses are delaying half a year with support of EAPI=4. The reason for that is not actually the lack of time or complexity of needed changes but willingness to use the new EAPI as an excuse to turn the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Donnie Berkholz schrieb: Eclasses still shouldn't break backwards compatibility — that hasn't changed in the past 5 years, despite what a very small minority of devs appears to think. This has been a huge PITA for python.eclass in particular, which has broken tons of my ebuilds for no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Petteri Räty
On 27.07.2011 17:30, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Donnie Berkholz schrieb: Eclasses still shouldn't break backwards compatibility — that hasn't changed in the past 5 years, despite what a very small minority of devs appears to think. This has been a huge PITA for python.eclass in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:02:31 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: About the concrete case of python eclass, per Arfrever's comment in bug report related with its eapi4 support, that support is already available in overlay, but not yet merged to the tree (probably because of the possible

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:30:08 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: Donnie Berkholz schrieb: Eclasses still shouldn't break backwards compatibility — that hasn't changed in the past 5 years, despite what a very small minority of devs appears to think. This has been a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:30:08 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: Donnie Berkholz schrieb: Eclasses still shouldn't break backwards compatibility — that hasn't changed in the past 5 years, despite what a very small minority of devs appears to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2011-07-27 15:07:54 Rafael Goncalves Martins napisał(a): On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 27-07-2011 a las 09:39 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Hello, As many of us already raged, the Python eclasses are delaying half a year with support of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
There are small changes between behavior in EAPI=3 and EAPI=4 in python.eclass in python overlay. The main change is improved syntax of PYTHON_DEPEND, which provides support for more situations and replaces PYTHON_USE_WITH* variables. 95 % of whole code in python.eclass is EAPI-independent, so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh statistics updated

2011-07-27 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: [1] https://www.ohloh.net/p/gentoo [2] http://git-exp.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=exp/gentoo-x86.git;a=summary It appears they count rather more commits than does CIA - Manifest commits look to be the likely cause.