Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-07 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary > wrote: >> Hi again, > > Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of > wireless-regdb, which uses a date-based versioning system. If euscan > tried to view/parse the directory ind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:32:30 +0200 Corentin Chary wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Matt Turner > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary > > wrote: > >> Hi again, > > > > Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of > > wireless-regdb, which uses a date-b

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] virtual/polkit-agent virtual pkg

2011-09-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/06/2011 07:44 PM, Maxim Koltsov wrote: > If user is emerging some polkit-requiring package on DE-less system, > it will pull big bunch of KDE, GNOME, etc. pacakges, which is not > desired. Also, nm-applet and others can be set up with localauthority > files, without help of polkit agents. I d

[gentoo-dev] Re: Committing packages with unfetchable sources [sys-devel/gdb-7.3.1]

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Resending as i sent it from gmail instead of google acc so it didn't hit the list. Dne 7. září 2011 9:20 Tomáš Chvátal napsal(a): > Hi, > please stop committing packages that is not possible to fetch right away. > You can pick from three options: > a) stop using mirrors://gentoo/ and put it on de

[gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Resending as i sent it from gmail instead of google acc so it didn't hit the list. -- Přeposlaná zpráva -- Od: Tomáš Chvátal Datum: 5. září 2011 18:08 Předmět: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting Komu: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Start coll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autodep project

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hi, really cool thing you create :) Would it be possible to move that package to main tree, and merge or possibly add new FEATURES option to portage like "autobuildchecks" that would be set by -dev profile? Cheers Tom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Andreas K. Hüttel
Ack.. both makes definitely sense. > -- Přeposlaná zpráva -- > Od: Tomáš Chvátal > Datum: 5. září 2011 18:08 > Předmět: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 > council meeting > Komu: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org > > > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:45:43 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:21:40PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 14:46:06 William Hub

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old > systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like it was already pointed out before. Breakage is already there, yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:27:05 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like it was alr

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:32:05 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:27:05 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 > > Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > > > >> Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old > >> systems with separtae / and /usr.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 > Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > > > Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old > > systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea > > Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Rich Freeman's message of 2011-09-07 13:22:46 +0200: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Michał Górny > wrote: > > Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like it was already pointed > > out before. Breakage is already there, you just don't notice it. > > Agreed, and once the official

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php/roadsend-php

2011-09-07 Thread Ole Markus With
# Ole Markus With (07 Sep 2011) # Masked for removal 7 Oct 2011. # Multiple bugs (315721,341685) and dead upstream dev-php/roadsend-php Cheers, Ole Markus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. I suggest that EAPI 5 should include the two features that have been omitted from EAPI 4 [1,2]. Apart from this, I think we should be more careful for the next EAPI, in order to avoid such long delays as we had wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2011/9/7 Ulrich Mueller : >> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > >> Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > I suggest that EAPI 5 should include the two features that have been > omitted from EAPI 4 [1,2]. > > Apart from this, I think we should be more careful for the next EAPI, > in order

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 16:27:01 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Well the patches code is in base eclass. Then you should first consider moving epatch to PMS. I'd honestly prefer going the other way. > For Recommended it works like this: > blabla.spec > Recommended: xf86-video-ati > > zypper in blabla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:07:21 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. I'd highlight the following bugs: 311795 - [Future EAPI] Allow dots in USE flag names 373377 - [Future EAPI] Remove IMAGE (deprecated already) -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autodep project

2011-09-07 Thread Alexander Bersenev
I already have depcheck and depcheckstrict FEATURES. Emerge_strict script launch modified version of emerge enabling depcheckstrict feature. I have a 0.2 version of this utility with some bugs fixed, I testing it now. I plan to move this package into main tree and I am going to talk about integ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:07:21 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-pms/msg_dfef93f8d6bc6684d4dc9793563b4fdf.xml was my list. There are also various bits of lousy wording in PMS that I'd like to get cleared up over an EAPI (such as what ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > Right now migrating to initramfs won't do any good, as Gentoo doesn't have > an initramfs available which mounts /usr. No doubt once Fedora gets theirs > working we'll be able to copy it (assuming it is FOSS), or we can write our > ow

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 > > Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > > > > > Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old > > > systems with separtae / and

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Robin H. Johnson's message of 2011-09-07 20:02:57 +0200: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Right now migrating to initramfs won't do any good, as Gentoo > > doesn't have an initramfs available which mounts /usr. No doubt > > once Fedora gets theirs w

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Right now migrating to initramfs won't do any good, as Gentoo doesn't > have > > an initramfs available which mounts /usr. No doubt once Fedora gets > theirs > > working we

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/2011 05:27, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov > wrote: > >> Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old >> systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea > > Old

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/07/2011 11:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:07:21 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal > wrote: > >> Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > I'd highlight the following bugs: > > 311795 - [Future EAPI] Allow dots in USE flag names 373377 - >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:47:17 -0400 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > I second the allowing dots in USE flag names. Definitely would be > helpful for declaring version related USE flags. You know you won't be able to mention such flags in the base profile,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:53:50PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:47:17 -0400 > "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > > I second the allowing dots in USE flag names. Definitely would be > > helpful for declaring version related USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > Never once have I had any issues > with separate / and /usr, and none of them use an initramfs. Ditto here, but that doesn't mean that problems don't exist. Right now the problems are likely to be subtle, perhaps arising only with certain

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:35:46PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > > Never once have I had any issues > > with separate / and /usr, and none of them use an initramfs. > Ditto here, but that doesn't mean that problems don't exist. Right now the >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Nathan Phillip Brink
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:31:23PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: > Are there possibilities about breaking off just a small piece of openrc and > putting that into /run (or /boot)? Enough of the core scripts so that it > can find /usr and mount it before continuing? Isn't /run something that's suppo