Re: [gentoo-dev] cygwin prefix patch: request for eyeballs

2012-03-27 Thread Gregory M. Turner
- Original Message - On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Gregory M. Turner g...@malth.us wrote: https://github.com/gmt/gmt-cygwin-overlay/blob/master/sys-apps/portage/files/portage-2.2.01.20271-cygdll_protect.patch Consistency in the style would be nice. For instance in

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid such breakage. XML-RPC is shit. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:REST_API

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Whyman
On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid such breakage. XML-RPC is shit.

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 04:04 AM, Ian Whyman wrote: On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Ian Whyman thev00...@gentoo.org wrote: On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. That version of pybugz worked for me before (20 February 2012). Any ideas? I'm guessing it was

Re: [gentoo-dev] cygwin prefix patch: request for eyeballs

2012-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Gregory M. Turner g...@malth.us wrote: - Original Message - On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Gregory M. Turner g...@malth.us wrote: https://github.com/gmt/gmt-cygwin-overlay/blob/master/sys-apps/portage/files/portage-2.2.01.20271-cygdll_protect.patch

[gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of fragmentation, much slower emerge -pvuDN world (I benchmarked it when I changed my partitioning

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of fragmentation, much slower emerge -pvuDN

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:49:00 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I don't know whether you've heard, but PackageKit (a hard dependency of udev as of 185, to allow automatic

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 02:01 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 20:01 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user had finished installing the operating system, it's too late to inform him about the advantages

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 27/03/2012 20:53, Ian Stakenvicius ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on *before*

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 02:53 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on

[gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer who uses /var/cache/portage/{tree,distfiles}, and I'm thinking about switching my default setup to

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 03:04 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: You know, we have Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example in Section 4, we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage partition in it (take a bit of space away from /home, or something) It

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:47:15PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org 1. ext4, not ext3, needs to be recommended as the default filesystem. We have kernel 3.2 marked stable, there is no need to keep talking about ext4 as if

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 07:53, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: You know, we have Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example in Section 4, we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage partition in it (take a bit of space away from /home, or something) It doesn't recommend/require anything,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:15, Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org wrote: Then again, Gentoo is about choice.  It just seems like we're presenting users with more choices than makes sense for a newbie.  If there is a choice between something that 99.99% of users will want, and some ancient piece of cruft

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer who uses

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:20:45AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: On 28 March 2012 08:15, Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org wrote: Then again, Gentoo is about choice.  It just seems like we're presenting users with more choices than makes sense for a newbie.  If there is a choice between

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
/var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* /var/cache/distfiles/* /var/cache/packages/* Actually, now I think of it, repositories /might/ be suitable for being under /db/ the repository does sort of function like a database, the tools we use to access it

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 03:13 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 27/03/12 03:04 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: You know, we have Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example in Section 4, we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage partition in it (take a bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 27/03/12 21:17, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 27/03/12 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer who

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* /var/cache/distfiles/* /var/cache/packages/* These sub directories are all portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:29:34PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: Why not just the separate quick install guide like we have that lists steps and the handbook if yu want more details? We came from that. It means we need to start managing just the commands for each architecture. After a while,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:29:50AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* /var/cache/distfiles/* /var/cache/packages/* Actually, now I think of it, repositories /might/ be suitable for being under /db/ the

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/*

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Richard Yao
On 03/27/12 14:34, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user had finished installing the operating system, it's too late to inform him about the advantages of a separate /usr/portage.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:47:10PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 03:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Richard Yao
On 03/27/12 15:13, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer who

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:47, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: The gentoo-x86 ebuild tree is not necessarily portage related. However I think we should paint the bike shed '/srv/tree' I for one never developed any love for /srv , its always seemed like an unwanted bit of poo left behind by an

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:19:10PM +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. That version of pybugz worked

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Alec Moskvin
On Tuesday 27 March 2012 14:34:03, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 20:01 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:59, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: What I was wanting to discuss mainly was that /usr/portage isn't right; I think we need to move that out of the /usr directory. I'm not sure what the new default should be, nor how the default should be decided. Maybe we just

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:57, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: Could we amend this to also include the benefits of ZFS and why you would want to use XFS or reiserfs instead of ext{2,3,4} as your filesystem in situations where ZFS is not yet appropriate (e.g. using it on Gentoo stable)? We

Re: [gentoo-dev] cygwin prefix patch: request for eyeballs

2012-03-27 Thread Gregory M. Turner
- Original Message - 'if not os.environ[PORTAGE_PYTONPATH]:' If PORTAGE_PYTHONPATH is not in os.environ then it will raise a KeyError, that is why we are doing a contains to begin with. I somehow got the idea that the python gods had sprinkled magical syntax-sugar on bool(x[y])?

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 04:08 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 28 March 2012 08:59, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: What I was wanting to discuss mainly was that /usr/portage isn't right; I think we need to move that out of the /usr directory. I'm not

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: oasis.eclass for oasis-based ocaml packages.

2012-03-27 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:44:03 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: eclass version 2.0, i hope i haven't forgotten any comment I improved some comments/description after a second read also. since there were no more comments: eclass committed, thanks all