Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 15/05/12 21:07, Arun Raghavan wrote: >> 1) Did you sleep through the /usr and initramfs flamewars? >> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken > > You seem to have missed the bit that this has nothing at all to do with > systemd. > I guess the systemd in the url m

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/15/2012 08:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:15:28PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 16 May 2012 05:21, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Stelian Ionescu wrote >> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote >> > > What specifically is your objection to udev today?  Is it doing th

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:15:28PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > >> All, > >> > >> I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. > >> > >> I got into th

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. >> >> I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for >> some reason t

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Enable FEATURES=config-protect-if-modified by default?

2012-05-15 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Tue, 15 May 2012 15:24:53 -0700 as excerpted: > Hi, > > In case you aren't familiar with it, here's the description from the > make.conf(5) man page: > > This causes the CONFIG_PROTECT behavior to be skipped for files that > have not been modified since they were install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 07:51:03PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Stelian Ionescu wrote > > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > > > What specifically is your objection to udev

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. > > I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for > some reason that stopped working. > > I will use echangelog from this pon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Walter Dnes
I asked what I thought was a simple developer-type question. I don't want this to become a public flamewar. If anybody wants to discuss the issue with me further, please email directly to me and not the list. -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Stelian Ionescu wrote > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > > What specifically is your objection to udev today? Is it doing things > > > you don't like? Too big? Something

[gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread William Hubbs
All, I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for some reason that stopped working. I will use echangelog from this ponit until I hear that repoman commit has been fixed. Thanks, William pgppTT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Stelian Ionescu
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > What specifically is your objection to udev today? Is it doing things > > you don't like? Too big? Something else? > > Today, it requires an initramfs if /usr is not physically

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:55:23AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > After some more Google-searching. it looks like the "official > > channels" way is via /etc/mdev.conf. Note that this is on a system with > > busybox[mdev] and no udev.

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES=config-protect-if-modified by default?

2012-05-15 Thread Zac Medico
Hi, In case you aren't familiar with it, here's the description from the make.conf(5) man page: This causes the CONFIG_PROTECT behavior to be skipped for files that have not been modified since they were installed. I think it would be a good idea to enable this by default, but I thought I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 02:32:57AM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote >> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 01:05 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >> >   I *DON'T WANT* "a serious framework", I want a lightweight device >> > manager... period... end of story.  Stick with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 02:32:57AM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 01:05 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I *DON'T WANT* "a serious framework", I want a lightweight device > > manager... period... end of story. Stick with the unix principle of one > > app doing one thing well. m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Greg KH wrote: > I know of no such problem with udisks, have you reported them to the > upstream developers? As I said, it's just what I hear — perhaps it's the usual retrograde whining. I should probably just try udisks-glue, the only issue I see is that it depen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:05:57AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 04:56:15AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote > > > I don't know at what state udev was 3 or 4 years ago, but mdev can: > > > > 1. Populate /dev (now unnecessary due to devtmpfs). > > 2. Handle ownership, permissions

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:55:23AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 06:23:36PM -0700, Greg KH wrote > > > So you need to implement stuff such that you are not dependant on the > > bus type. If you see a new disk, act on it, it's that simple. > > > > But note, please do not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 04:56:15AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > We learned that this is not a good idea at all, and should be left to > > userspace helper applications > > that listen for dbus messages. > > Could you perhaps expand a bit on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due gmsoft concentrating in hppa work

2012-05-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/15/2012 12:33 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > [..] net-misc/dibbler I will take it - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJPsp59AAoJE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due gmsoft concentrating in hppa work

2012-05-15 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
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Re: [gentoo-dev] -Werror unwanted?

2012-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 15 May 2012 07:29:36 Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote: > On 14/05/12 16:44, hasufell wrote: > > However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or > > howtos) how to handle Werror. > > As can be judged by the title of my patches on the subject, I consider > -Werror to be short

Re: [gentoo-dev] -Werror unwanted?

2012-05-15 Thread Kacper Kowalik
On 15.05.2012 13:29, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote: > On 14/05/12 16:44, hasufell wrote: >> However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or >> howtos) how to handle Werror. > > As can be judged by the title of my patches on the subject, I consider > -Werror to be short-sighted at b

[gentoo-dev] FYI: The default in ~arch is UDisks2 instead of UDisks1 for gvfs, and thus, GNOME and Xfce (/media vs. /run/media/$user)

2012-05-15 Thread Samuli Suominen
What has changed: make.defaults of targets/desktop/ is enabling USE="udisks upower" and NOT enabling USE="gdu" package.use of targets/desktop/ is enabling USE="gdu" for older gnome-base/gvfs versions (as in, stable versions) What it means: >=gnome-base/gvfs-1.12 will use UDisks2 instead of

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due gmsoft concentrating in hppa work

2012-05-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
As talked with him via mail, he will concentrate in hppa work and won't have time to take care of the following packages: net-misc/dibbler net-misc/aiccu Feel free to get them Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] -Werror unwanted?

2012-05-15 Thread Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
On 14/05/12 16:44, hasufell wrote: > However, I don't see references to ebuild policy (in devmanual or > howtos) how to handle Werror. As can be judged by the title of my patches on the subject, I consider -Werror to be short-sighted at best and idiotic at worst. The next GCC version, which will a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Olivier Crête wrote: > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 01:05 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >>   I *DON'T WANT* "a serious framework", I want a lightweight device >> manager... period... end of story.  Stick with the unix principle of one >> app doing one thing well.  mdev is eno