Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:34:41 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Zac Medico > wrote: > > On 07/19/2012 06:14 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > >> Could be that Portage re-exports a sanitized > >> LINGUAS tough, but I doubt it. > > > > Portage does sanitize it if there are any

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Today I would like to present to you my proposal for a new eclass with > helper functions for treating localizations: l10n.eclass (see the > attached file or [1]). Its functionality can be used in other eclasses > (such as qt4-r2 and cmake-uti

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 07/19/2012 06:14 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: >> Could be that Portage re-exports a sanitized >> LINGUAS tough, but I doubt it. > > Portage does sanitize it if there are any linguas_* flags in IUSE, > otherwise it lets the variable pass throug

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-07-19 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Sascha Cunz wrote: > Is there a reason for not using at least en_US.UTF-8 as a "sane" > default value? Because there's no one-size-fits-all locale, but it is specific to every system so the user must configure it? The matter was recently discussed in this mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-07-19 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Sascha Cunz schrieb: > Is there a reason for not using at least en_US.UTF-8 as a "sane" default > value? It has been discussed some time ago already. Setting LANG="en_US.UTF-8" would mess with collation rules, measurement&paper units etc. which has the potential to make users outside USA unhappy.

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-gfx/gnome-scan

2012-07-19 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
# Alexandre Rostovtsev (19 Jul 2012) # Fails to scan with recent sane-backends; fails to build with gegl-0.2; # inactive upstream. # Users should switch to another scanning utility, e.g. media-gfx/simple-scan. # Removal in 30 days (bug #421957) media-gfx/gnome-scan

[gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-07-19 Thread Sascha Cunz
I recently discovered that I for some reason haven't noticed the warning about setting the locale to utf-8 in the gentoo handbook for obviously several years; thus i was still running all my systems in a POSIX locale since i never cared much about it. However, since I noticed, I talked to sever

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Zac Medico
On 07/19/2012 06:14 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > Could be that Portage re-exports a sanitized > LINGUAS tough, but I doubt it. Portage does sanitize it if there are any linguas_* flags in IUSE, otherwise it lets the variable pass through without sanitizing it. -- Thanks, Zac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-19 Thread Christopher Head
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:05:39 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > As others have mentioned, coreutils doesn't impact the initramfs much > anyway, though other tools like mdadm/lvm/etc are more likely to. > > I think the more practical issue is that it isn't straightforward to > do in an automated way. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:04:15PM -0700, Olivier Cr?te wrote > The rescue system should be entirely separate from the main system, so > it survives mishandled upgrades. So having that should not hinder how > your main system is built. So you should have it as a separate partition > or you can even

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:14:22 +0200 Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > First, this is guaranteed by PMS and so independent of package manager > and second, you do not have to care about locales in LINGUAS which are > invalid for the package. Could be that Portage re-exports a sanitized > LINGUAS tough, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Ben de Groot
On 19 July 2012 21:14, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > > I assume the P in PLOCALS stands for package. Not that obvious if you > ask me. L10N_LOCALS would at least tell me which eclass this variable > belongs to. Yes, as P is widely used to refer to the package. I wanted something to reflect that these

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-19 Thread Richard Yao
On 07/18/2012 02:25 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > 1) There are no truly mature tools for automatically generating and > installing an initramfs based on system requirements. Canek likes to > recommend dracut, which still isn't marked stable. I've gotten stable > genkernel to work reasonably, but its err

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:45:39 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > Today I would like to present to you my proposal for a new eclass with > helper functions for treating localizations: l10n.eclass (see the > attached file or [1]). Its functionality can be used in other eclasses > (such as qt4-r2 and cmake-

Re: [gentoo-dev] DESCRIPTION in eclasses

2012-07-19 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:57:09 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Thanks, this explains why these DESCRIPTIONs are there. > > But history left aside, are they still useful today? If not, then they > should be removed. DESCRIPTION="Based on the ${ECLASS} eclass" is never a sufficient description for a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > I'm not really following your logic here, so forgive me. I completely > understand why folks do not say, rebuild their kernel when it is > updated (kernel configs are annoying.) > > However lets say I have coreutils in / and coreutils in my

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/rabbitmq-server up for grabs

2012-07-19 Thread Ultrabug
I'll take it tho I don't use it. If someone else want it feel free to ping me, I share my toys. Cheers Ultra On 18/07/2012 18:37, Benedikt Böhm wrote: > All, > > i'm not using rabbitmq-server except as a dependency for > app-admin/chef and i've no interest or time to fix it. Feel free to > take