Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 01-08-2012 21:00:23 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > Diego mentioned the python issue. Honestly, if some asian person has whatever charset that I often find in spam messages, but is not UTF-8, are you then going to tell that person to switch to UTF-8 to get those python packages emerged? I hope no

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Sergey Popov
02.08.2012 04:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > That's right... the poster was running a POSIX locale for several > years ***AND DID NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS RELATED TO IT***. This discussion is very similar with one, that i have seen in Russian Linux community some years ago about migrating from ru_RU.KOI

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Peter Stuge
Walter Dnes wrote: > The fact that "other distros do it" does not constitute > justification for us to do it. Unfortunately that exact reason, along with "Fedora is doing it", was cited by a very active developer as reason to reject technical points which I tried to make a few times. But that is

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > We're ignoring a very basic question here... what problems does > shipping with a POSIX locale cause that would be fixed by setting a UTF8 > default locale??? I want a real answer. Not something along the lines > of "But daddy, all the other k

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:29:42PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote > Every locale is wrong for somebody; the idea was that by taking > a survey, you could make it wrong for the least amount of people > (by default). Question... has anybody ever considered that maybe a POSIX locale is wrong for th

Re: [gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy?

2012-08-01 Thread Richard Yao
On 08/01/2012 11:27 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:13 AM, hasufell wrote: >> - if people want nice build _output_ (not log), they can use --quiet-build >> > > ++ > > If you're going to spam the console with 10k lines of text, what's the > harm in spamming it with 100k? I rea

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/01/12 16:18, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> >> If it turns out that C or POSIX is the most common response, we should >> then default the locale to en_US.UTF-8 if we really want to default to >> a UTF-8 setting. The reason being it makes sense to have the default >> locale set to the country

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > If it turns out that C or POSIX is the most common response, we should > then default the locale to en_US.UTF-8 if we really want to default to > a UTF-8 setting. The reason being it makes sense to have the default > locale set to the country of origin, which in our case is the United > State

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2012-08-01 Thread Hans de Graaff
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Re: [gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy?

2012-08-01 Thread Francesco Riosa
+1 for verbosity Il giorno 01/ago/2012 13:21, "hasufell" ha scritto: > > We already had a discussion about cmake-utils.eclass and forcing verbose > build log for that which was approved: > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce7d33748936663e84a5463fbf7f4d39.xml > > Also we have bug https://

Re: [gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy?

2012-08-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:13:43 +0200 hasufell wrote: > We already had a discussion about cmake-utils.eclass and forcing > verbose build log for that which was approved: > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce7d33748936663e84a5463fbf7f4d39.xml > > Also we have bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/sho

Re: [gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy?

2012-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:13 AM, hasufell wrote: > - if people want nice build _output_ (not log), they can use --quiet-build > ++ If you're going to spam the console with 10k lines of text, what's the harm in spamming it with 100k? I realize the odd package has a fairly quiet build system, but

[gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy?

2012-08-01 Thread hasufell
We already had a discussion about cmake-utils.eclass and forcing verbose build log for that which was approved: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce7d33748936663e84a5463fbf7f4d39.xml Also we have bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384193 and https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/aiccu - maintainer needed

2012-08-01 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Quoting Maciej Grela (2012-07-31 22:31:53) > If you'd be interested in cooperating on this please let me know. There's Proxy Maintaining Team [0] which is better for that, but I could do it, too. [0] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/proxy-maintainers/index.xml -- Amadeusz Żołnowski signature

FIXED Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/aiccu - maintainer needed

2012-08-01 Thread Michael Weber
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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/aiccu - maintainer needed

2012-08-01 Thread Maciej Grela
2012/8/1 Pacho Ramos : > El mar, 31-07-2012 a las 22:31 +0200, Maciej Grela escribió: >> 2012/7/31 Amadeusz Żołnowski : >> > I have taken it recently, but realised I'm not going to use aiccu on >> > Gentoo any time soon. Sorry for mess-up. >> >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to volunteer for being a proxy ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/aiccu - maintainer needed

2012-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 31-07-2012 a las 22:31 +0200, Maciej Grela escribió: > 2012/7/31 Amadeusz Żołnowski : > > I have taken it recently, but realised I'm not going to use aiccu on > > Gentoo any time soon. Sorry for mess-up. > > Hi, > > I'd like to volunteer for being a proxy maintainer for this package. > I