Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

2014-02-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Tom Wijsman wrote: > I'd say that if around 7 people vote on the matter that that is > based on a necessary amount of understanding. That is just incredibly naïve. In another project five people reviewed an experimental change written by me that someone else proposed for inclusion into the projec

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-02-21, o godz. 21:07:54 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Many people found the current behavior of git-r3 eclass unfortunate, > lightly saying. Most importantly, I underestimated how many packages > actually require pretty complete '.git' metadata in the checkout, > including complete history

[gentoo-dev] rfc: runlevels in runit

2014-02-23 Thread William Hubbs
All, there is a significant change I want to make to the sys-process/runit ebuild to fix a couple of bugs [1] [2]. In a nutshell, we set up a default runlevel as shown in this upstream document [3] in /etc/runit/runsvdir. We rebuild it every time an upgrade happens, so this is why we are hitting

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Michał Górny: > Dnia 2014-02-21, o godz. 21:07:54 Michał Górny > napisał(a): > >> Many people found the current behavior of git-r3 eclass >> unfortunate, lightly saying. Most importantly, I underestimated >> how many packages actually require prett

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-02-23 23h59 UTC

2014-02-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2014-02-23 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-misc/usbip 2014-02-18 07:46:27 ssuominen Additions: app-misc/mediacrush-cli 2014-02-17 17:29:54 maksbotan

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM, hasufell wrote: > Why do you send RFC out when you ignore comments? I didn't see any comments suggesting any changes.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

2014-02-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:59:48 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > I'd say that if around 7 people vote on the matter that that is > > based on a necessary amount of understanding. > > That is just incredibly naïve. > > In another project five people reviewed an experimental change

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Matt Turner: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM, hasufell > wrote: >> Why do you send RFC out when you ignore comments? > > I didn't see any comments suggesting any changes. > There were 2. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJTCpcPAAoJEF

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> Why do you send RFC out when you ignore comments? >> >> I didn't see any comments suggesting any changes. > > There were 2. I don't think there were. But I'll play along with your trolling. A recap of the thread: 1) I asked what the difference

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

2014-02-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > I'd say that if around 7 people vote on the matter that that is > > > based on a necessary amount of understanding. > > > > That is just incredibly naïve. .. > > You need to learn to respect what you don't know that you don't know. > > Or you apply knowledge codification

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

2014-02-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 01:59:36 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > > I'd say that if around 7 people vote on the matter that that is > > > > based on a necessary amount of understanding. > > > > > > That is just incredibly naïve. > .. > > > You need to learn to respect what you don

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Matt Turner: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM, hasufell > wrote: Why do you send RFC out when you ignore comments? >>> >>> I didn't see any comments suggesting any changes. >> >> There were 2. > > I don't think there were. But I'll play alo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

2014-02-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > > You need to learn to respect what you don't know that you don't > > > > know. > > > > > > Or you apply knowledge codification and mark it as experimental. > > > > No, that's what you *know* that you don't know. > > Exactly, which effectively keeps us away from unknown

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: runlevels in runit

2014-02-23 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:13:18 -0600 as excerpted: > One is to use a use flag to build them. If I do that, I would consider > forcing the use flag on with an iuse default, so anyone who doesn't want > the runlevels rebuilt every time would need to turn it off in make.conf > or p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: runlevels in runit

2014-02-23 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:16:20 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > OT: I've often wondered if emerge --config is actually intended to hide > mostly one-shot configs, or if that's purely unintended accident. It > seems to me that if it's the latter, portage needs some standard me

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread Duncan
hasufell posted on Mon, 24 Feb 2014 01:18:49 + as excerpted: > I am tired of talking to people who are unobjective. > > But to make it more clear to you: I don't think that removing shallow > clone support is an improvement, so I vote against removing it. FWIW, I didn't get that from reading

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

2014-02-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:16:44 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > > > You need to learn to respect what you don't know that you > > > > > don't know. > > > > > > > > Or you apply knowledge codification and mark it as experimental. > > > > > > No, that's what you *know* that you d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:46:52 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > That said, while I didn't see any objections, what surprised me was the > speed at which it happened. The RFC was posted early afternoon (my time) > on a Friday. The commit was early evening on a Sunday. Not ev

[gentoo-dev] News item draft for >=sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-02-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild Title: Upgrading udev to version >=209 Author: Samuli Suominen Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2014-02-21 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrad

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item draft for >=sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-02-23 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 07:32 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to > sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild > > SHOULD or NEEDS TO BE ? Honestly, this didn't read like much of a news announcement at all, and reads more like something I'd write when

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Patch set for git-r3 enabling full mirroring of upstream repo

2014-02-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-02-24, o godz. 01:18:49 hasufell napisał(a): > But to make it more clear to you: I don't think that removing shallow > clone support is an improvement, so I vote against removing it. Then please provide patches that add proper support for that. The changes were necessary to fix repeate

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item draft for >=sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-02-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-02-24, o godz. 07:32:01 Samuli Suominen napisał(a): > If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to > sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild Could you wait for 210, please? Upstream promised they're going to release it soon and it has a number of important fixes. We don't want