Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Diamond wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 12:25:56 -0500 > Mike Pagano wrote: > >> Kernel versions are coming out 1-2 a week at this point. > > There's also a problem to upgrade kernel for a user every 1-2 week by > hands using "make oldconfig" and reading smth like > k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Diamond
On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 12:25:56 -0500 Mike Pagano wrote: > Are there solid arguments for stabilizing any version of > gentoo-sources? I think the valid arguments for not stabilizing > gentoo-sources can be garnered from the thread about not stabilizing > vanilla-sources[1]. > > This is in no way

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:39:39 AM Mikle Kolyada wrote: > 02.01.2015 20:25, Mike Pagano пишет: > > This is in no way complaining about how long it takes to stabilize a > > kernel. > As for this fact. > > > > The main problem is that: we only can test sources on machine we can > reboot. Fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mikle Kolyada
02.01.2015 20:25, Mike Pagano пишет: > This is in no way complaining about how long it takes to stabilize a kernel. As for this fact. The main problem is that: we only can test sources on machine we can reboot. For example me and Agostino have access to the rest hardware like alpha, ia64 and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Friday, January 02, 2015 04:05:42 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > > To summarize. > > > > In this instance, as this moment: > > > > 1. Only enter stable req bugs for 3.18 and 3.17. > > I assume this bit is just a transition since we don't want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > To summarize. > > In this instance, as this moment: > > 1. Only enter stable req bugs for 3.18 and 3.17. I assume this bit is just a transition since we don't want to downgrade from 3.17/18 to 3.14, and that once we get the next longterm we'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Friday, January 02, 2015 03:30:40 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 02/01/15 02:57 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > >> I understand your point. Maybe waiting a few days to auto stable > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Friday, January 02, 2015 03:22:31 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 02/01/15 03:17 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > > On Friday, January 02, 2015 03:11:22 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> On 02/01/15 02:57 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > >>> I understand your point. Maybe waiting a few days to auto > >>> stable m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 02/01/15 02:57 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: >> >> I understand your point. Maybe waiting a few days to auto stable >> makes sense, because less than 7 days later, a new version with >> bug/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/01/15 03:17 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > On Friday, January 02, 2015 03:11:22 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> On 02/01/15 02:57 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: >>> I understand your point. Maybe waiting a few days to auto >>> stable makes sense, because less

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Friday, January 02, 2015 03:11:22 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 02/01/15 02:57 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > > I understand your point. Maybe waiting a few days to auto stable > > makes sense, because less than 7 days later, a new version with > > bug/security fixes is released. > > > > Isn't our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/01/15 02:57 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > > I understand your point. Maybe waiting a few days to auto stable > makes sense, because less than 7 days later, a new version with > bug/security fixes is released. > > Isn't our current rate of stabiliz

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Friday, January 02, 2015 02:18:24 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > The thing about stable gentoo-sources is that it shows that it's been > > tested, and ideally that testing's been done against the rdeps of the > > kernel package too (ie, exte

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
On Friday, January 02, 2015 01:10:21 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Resending as I replied to Ian instead of the list by accident. (sorry, Ian) > On 02/01/15 12:25 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > > Hello, Everyone, > > > > Are there solid arguments for stabilizing any version of > > gentoo-sources? I thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > The thing about stable gentoo-sources is that it shows that it's been > tested, and ideally that testing's been done against the rdeps of the > kernel package too (ie, external modules). ... > That said, given the frequency of security u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/01/15 12:25 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: > Hello, Everyone, > > Are there solid arguments for stabilizing any version of > gentoo-sources? I think the valid arguments for not stabilizing > gentoo-sources can be garnered from the thread about not >

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-02 Thread Mike Pagano
Hello, Everyone, Are there solid arguments for stabilizing any version of gentoo-sources? I think the valid arguments for not stabilizing gentoo-sources can be garnered from the thread about not stabilizing vanilla-sources[1]. This is in no way complaining about how long it takes to stabiliz

[gentoo-dev] New sysfs based battery monitor widget for kde

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