Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
But they don't. See my two blog posts on the matter. ABI compatibility is explicitly not. What they care about. On 23 Jan 2015 05:56, "Michał Górny" wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 > hasufell napisał(a): > > > Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a > > "l

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:06:39 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: [...] > > That's what I understand from Michał's comment (quoting him): > > > >> 1. if you have dynamic-deps enabled, portage will want to install > >> both ffmpeg (because of :=) and libav (because of ||). The > >> effective deps will look li

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/23/15 00:56, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell napisał(a): Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a "libressl" USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling SUBSLOTs impossible. If libressl and openssl would have matc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/23/2015 01:48 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:06:39 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > > [...] >>> That's what I understand from Michał's comment (quoting him): >>> 1. if you have dynamic-deps enabled, portage will want to install both ffmpeg (because of :=) and libav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 00:18:50 Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> napisał(a): > Michał Górny posted on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:40:17 +0100 as excerpted: > > > Display-If-Keyword: amd64 ~amd64 x86 ~x86 > > > > The USE flags corresponding to intruction sets and other features > > specific to the x86 arc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. > The Python script can be downloaded and executed using the following > command: > > $ wget -O - dev.gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread hasufell
Anthony G. Basile: > On 01/23/15 00:56, Michał Górny wrote: >> Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 >> hasufell napisał(a): >> >>> Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a >>> "libressl" USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling >>> SUBSLOTs impossible. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > > script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. > > The Python script can be downloaded an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 > Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > >> On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python >>> script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> But that's not the biggest problem with the wget thing: the first time >> someone runs this it's going to fail. >> >> $ wget -O - dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86.py | python >> ... >> Unable to determine PORTDIR, please set it befo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 > > Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > > > >> On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Py

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:22:31 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > > > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > > > script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. > > > The Python script can be downloaded and executed using the following > > > command: > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 16:16:25 Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 > > Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > > > >> On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Moving CPU flags into USE_EXPAND

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 01:13:08 + (UTC) Duncan wrote: > Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:59:23 +0300 as excerpted: > > > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:17:35 -0800 Christopher Head wrote: > >> On January 20, 2015 12:47:03 AM PST, Alexis Ballier > >> wrote: > >> >So, you're telling me that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-24, o godz. 00:59:24 Andrew Savchenko napisał(a): > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:22:31 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > > > > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > > > > script which generates the correct value from your /proc/cpuinfo [1]. > > > > The Python scri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 05:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Even `wget --no-check-certificate` would be a big improvement. > > ...because? > You rule out some 13-year-olds in coffee shops as attackers. I overstated -- since the user isn't replying with any data, it's not a big improvement, but it's still

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, hasufell wrote: > > The problem I see now is that people will have a hard time to actually > switch, because unlike gnutls we cannot have openssl and libressl be > installed at the same time. > I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 17:27:16 Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > On 01/23/2015 05:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > >> Even `wget --no-check-certificate` would be a big improvement. > > > > ...because? > > > > You rule out some 13-year-olds in coffee shops as attackers. I > overstated -- since

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > 3. Put it in an ebuild, after all. This will add a lot of complexity > but GPG comes for free, plus some people will actually test > and stabilize it. > > I think this should be in an ebuild. You mentioned that it's only needed ONCE, but i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:16:25 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 > > Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > > > >> On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 05:38 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > 3. Put it in an ebuild, after all. This will add a lot of complexity > but GPG comes for free, plus some people will actually test > and stabilize it. > I do. It seems like a lot of work, but we can test and quick-stable it. Thank you. >> If what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 17:56:49 Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > On 01/23/2015 05:38 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > 3. Put it in an ebuild, after all. This will add a lot of complexity > > but GPG comes for free, plus some people will actually test > > and stabilize it. > > > > I do. It seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/23/2015 06:12 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > script tool generates the correct value using your /proc/cpuinfo. > It can be found in app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags package: I think you accidentally a word here, but otherwise it lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:12:15 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > script tool generates the correct value using your /proc/cpuinfo. > It can be found in app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags package: > > $ emerge -1v app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-24, o godz. 02:29:26 Andrew Savchenko napisał(a): > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:12:15 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > > To help you enable the correct USE flags, we are providing a Python > > script tool generates the correct value using your /proc/cpuinfo. > > It can be found in app-portage/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-20, o godz. 10:40:17 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Dnia 2015-01-18, o godz. 21:44:05 > Michał Górny napisał(a): > > > Hello, > > > > I would like to commit the following flags as cpu_flags_x86_desc. > > The list combines global USE flags with some local USE flags I've been > > able t

[gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, Attaching the news item for planned USE=libav introduction. The emphasis on letting users know that they may need to set USE=-libav to get their systems back in working condition. I hope that we've finally agreed on going for variant 1. I was trying to come up with a hybrid possibly-friendly

[gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:13:34 +0100 as excerpted: > Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 00:18:50 Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> > napisał(a): > >> Michał Górny posted on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:40:17 +0100 [as snipped] >> >> So based on this preliminary news item, I decided to get ahead of th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Diamond
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:45:34 -0600 Ben Kohler wrote: > > I think this should be in an ebuild. You mentioned that it's only > needed ONCE, but it's needed ONCE for everytime one install gentoos, > along the same lines as mirrorselect. A couple of years from now, do > we want users to have to di