Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Campbell (zlg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/30/2015 09:55 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On 30 July 2015 at 19:15, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 30/07/15 01:55 AM, Duncan wrote: >>> Patrick McLean posted on Wed, 29 Jul 2015 15:35:02

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Campbell (zlg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/02/2015 12:12 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Andrew Savchenko > wrote: >> >> This is a clean solution for developers and maintainers, but not >> for ordinary users — they will confused by "qt qt4 qt5": "what >> is

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Campbell (zlg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/02/2015 10:33 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:34:51 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: >> Recently some team members of the Qt project have adopted these >> ebuild policies: >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Qt/Policies >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:22:42 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)" wrote: > > I'm having a hard time understanding why we need daemons to handle our > filesystems. Can you give me a use case that /etc/fstab is > insufficient for solving? > > - -- > Danie

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:47:24 -0700 Brian Dolbec wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:22:42 -0700 > "Daniel Campbell (zlg)" wrote: > > > > > I'm having a hard time understanding why we need daemons

[gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 03/08/15 07:14, NP-Hardass wrote: > ^^ has the pleasant side effect of being easier to read, as a user. The > user receives a message saying "at-most-one-of" instead of some > convoluted other expression that they don't understand. > > I am all for the use of ^^ add the default for this reason.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:23:37 +1000 Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 03/08/15 07:14, NP-Hardass wrote: > > ^^ has the pleasant side effect of being easier to read, as a user. > > The user receives a message saying "at-most-one-of" instead of some > > convoluted other expression that they don't understa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Dale
Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 03/08/15 07:14, NP-Hardass wrote: >> ^^ has the pleasant side effect of being easier to read, as a user. The >> user receives a message saying "at-most-one-of" instead of some >> convoluted other expression that they don't understand. >> >> I am all for the use of ^^ ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/08/2015 15:07, Dale wrote: > Michael Palimaka wrote: >> On 03/08/15 07:14, NP-Hardass wrote: >>> ^^ has the pleasant side effect of being easier to read, as a user. The >>> user receives a message saying "at-most-one-of" instead of some >>> convoluted other expression that they don't understa

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/systemd-ui

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
# Mike Gilbert (03 Aug 2015) # Unmaintained upstream. Fails to build. Removal in 30 days. # Bugs: 478174, 546192, 556200. sys-apps/systemd-ui

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/systemd-ui

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
Resending due to broken Reply-To. # Mike Gilbert (03 Aug 2015) # Unmaintained upstream. Fails to build. Removal in 30 days. # Bugs: 478174, 546192, 556200. sys-apps/systemd-ui

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Duncan
Brian Dolbec posted on Mon, 03 Aug 2015 00:59:07 -0700 as excerpted: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:47:24 -0700 Brian Dolbec > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:22:42 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)" >> wrote: >> >> > I'm having a hard time understanding why we need daemons to handle >> > our filesyste

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Sunday 02 of August 2015 21:37:36 Rich Freeman wrote: | The approach qt4=qt4 | and qt5=qt5 seems simpler on the surface, but it means that users end | up having to set tons of per-package configurations when they don't | actually care which one they use, I will risk a thesis that if they didn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Dale
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Sunday 02 of August 2015 21:37:36 Rich Freeman wrote: > | The approach qt4=qt4 > | and qt5=qt5 seems simpler on the surface, but it means that users end > | up having to set tons of per-package configurations when they don't > | actually care which one they use, > > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Sunday 02 of August 2015 21:37:36 Rich Freeman wrote: > | The approach qt4=qt4 > | and qt5=qt5 seems simpler on the surface, but it means that users end > | up having to set tons of per-package configurations when they don't > | actuall

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/08/2015 22:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: >> On Sunday 02 of August 2015 21:37:36 Rich Freeman wrote: >> | The approach qt4=qt4 >> | and qt5=qt5 seems simpler on the surface, but it means that users end >> | up having to set tons of per-pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Daniel Campbell (zlg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/03/2015 12:47 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:22:42 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)" > wrote: > > >> I'm having a hard time understanding why we need daemons to >> handle our filesystems. Can you give me a use case that >> /etc/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 04:38:59PM -0700, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 08/03/2015 12:47 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:22:42 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)" > > wrote: > > > > > >> I'm having a hard time understanding w

[gentoo-dev] new eclass: golang-vcs-snapshot.eclass for golang vcs snapshots

2015-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
This eclass is meant to handle vcs snapshots of golang packages coming from services like github. Let me know what you think. William # Copyright 1999-2013 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: $ # @ECLASS: golang-vcs-snapshot.eclass # @

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote: > > So say I want to have an ownCloud instance that provides a single /usr > or /etc for any Gentoo system that wants it on my local network. Is > that a use case that would benefit from this new mounting? I suppose daemons that provide

Re: [gentoo-dev] new eclass: golang-vcs-snapshot.eclass for golang vcs snapshots

2015-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 07:20:20PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: *snip* > # Copyright 1999-2013 Gentoo Foundation I'll fix the year before I commit. William signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 4 August 2015 at 04:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > [...] > Gentoo should be the best of both worlds. We should give users the > power to tweak things, but we shouldn't force them to play with config > files all day long just to have a functional system. If users want to > care we let them care ins

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 11:59 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 4 August 2015 at 04:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > > [...] > > Gentoo should be the best of both worlds. We should give users the > > power to tweak things, but we shouldn't force them to play with config > > files all day long just to have a

[gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Duncan
Ben de Groot posted on Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:59:40 +0800 as excerpted: > In my opinion, this is the way Gentoo has always worked, and we should > simply recommend users to only set one of the qt* useflags as globally > enabled, if they want to prevent such micro-management. Hiding the qt4 > option i

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc mount service prototype

2015-08-03 Thread Duncan
Daniel Campbell (zlg) posted on Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:38:59 -0700 as excerpted: > So say I want to have an ownCloud instance that provides a single /usr > or /etc for any Gentoo system that wants it on my local network. Is that > a use case that would benefit from this new mounting? Well, both /etc