[gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread William Hubbs
All, I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for all users. The only reason I can think of that we have removed them is cosmetic (it removes things from tab completion), but I have also heard that having those things in tab completion would be a good thing. Another

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 03/29] python-utils-r1.eclass: Add missing ||die on file read

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:50:44 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > --- > eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass | 4 ++-- > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass b/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass > index 0a04e12..201b0c4 100644 > ---

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] New project: Crypto

2015-11-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, As recently discussed herds are migrating to projects, and in that connection we've now set up a project[0] for what was previously the Crypto herd. Please consider this an official announcement and request for comment related to establishing

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/25/2015 06:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH > for all users. > This sounds strange to me, if it should be executable by all users it likely shouldn't be in sbin in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/25/2015 12:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for > all users. > > The only thing that procps installs in /sbin is sysctl. Why? It works when run as a normal user, as long as you don't try to change something sacred.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:05:13 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > > On 11/25/2015 06:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > >> I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH > >> for all users. > > > This

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: > This behaviour is not really that traddditional. most *nix's I've > seen have the sbin directories in the path for all users. Traditional Unices didn't have /sbin at all. Instead, they used /etc for such binaries. :) (Some remnants of this can

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:10:11 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for >> all users. >> >> The only reason I can think of that we have removed them

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:10:11AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for > all users. Binaries that can run with user privileges could be symbolic linked to /bin. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 07:51:55PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: > > > From what I've read, the traditional difference between bin and sbin > > was that sbin means static-bin and everything stored in there was to > > be able to come up without

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: dev-lang/go prefix patch hard coding a path to a binary

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/23/2015 08:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > there is a patch to dev-lang/go that was added a while back w/o > consulting me [1]. I eventually did review the patch, and I see > that it hard codes a path to the sysctl binary on OSx. In

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New project: Crypto

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/25/2015 09:12 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > Hi, > > As recently discussed herds are migrating to projects, and in that > connection we've now set up a project[0] for what was previously > the Crypto herd. > > Please consider this an

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 07:31:14PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: > > > This behaviour is not really that traddditional. most *nix's I've > > seen have the sbin directories in the path for all users. > > Traditional Unices didn't have /sbin at

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/25/2015 10:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:05:13 +0100 Ulrich Mueller > wrote: > >>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> >>> On 11/25/2015 06:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:18:34 -0800 Daniel Campbell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 11/25/2015 10:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:05:13 +0100 Ulrich Mueller > > wrote: > > > >>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 11/25/2015 06:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH >> for all users. > This sounds strange to me, if it should be executable by all users > it likely shouldn't be in sbin in

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 06:36:03PM +0100, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 11/25/2015 06:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH > > for all users. > > > > This sounds

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: profiles/

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:43:38 + (UTC) "Michael Sterrett" wrote: > commit: 7559ea69c0f26631ab261c7bab87fc4954986c43 > Author: Michael Sterrett gentoo org> > AuthorDate: Wed Nov 25 17:42:55 2015 + > Commit: Michael Sterrett gentoo org> > CommitDate: Wed

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: > From what I've read, the traditional difference between bin and sbin > was that sbin means static-bin and everything stored in there was to > be able to come up without libraries. Source/reference for this? > As mgorny was talking about earlier,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for > all users. I support this idea. The distinction between bin and sbin is stupid.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:18:34 -0800 > Daniel Campbell wrote: >> Maybe I'm missing something, but `df` is in /bin. Do you use something >> else to determine free space? > > btrfs fi df In thins case,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] xdg.eclass: break dependency loop with glib and utility packages

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Hello all, > > making gnome2.eclass depend on xdg.eclass has the unfortunate > consequence of having xdg utility package in the dependency loop of > glib which uses gnome2.eclass for various features (such as

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: >> > From what I've read, the traditional difference between bin and sbin >> > was that sbin means static-bin and everything stored in there was to >> > be able to come up without libraries. >> >> Source/reference for this? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread splite-gentoo
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 07:51:55PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: >> From what I've read, the traditional difference between bin and sbin >> was that sbin means static-bin and everything stored in there was to >> be able to come up without libraries.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New project: Crypto

2015-11-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/25/2015 08:20 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 11/25/2015 09:12 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> Hi, > >> As recently discussed herds are migrating to projects, and in >> that connection we've now set up a project[0] for what was >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/25/15 1:58 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:10 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for >> all users. > I support this idea. The distinction between bin and sbin is stupid. > I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:10:11 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like for us to discuss adding the sbin directories to PATH for > all users. > > The only reason I can think of that we have removed them is cosmetic (it > removes things from tab completion), but I have also heard that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/25/2015 09:16 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Michał Górny > wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:18:34 -0800 Daniel Campbell >> wrote: >>> Maybe I'm missing something, but `df` is

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 09:53:47PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, William Hubbs wrote: > > >> > From what I've read, the traditional difference between bin and sbin > >> > was that sbin means static-bin and everything stored in there was to > >> > be able to come up

Re: [gentoo-dev] new eclass: xdg and xdg-utils as a replacement for fdo-mime

2015-11-25 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Hello all, just a heads up that these eclass were slightly enhanced and pushed to the tree. gnome2.eclass and gstreamer.eclass are now using it. If you need to do any kind of hackery with XDG_* environment variable or are using fdo-mime.eclass, you might want to update to xdg*.eclass. -- Gilles

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] distutils-r1.eclass: Ban EXAMPLES in EAPI 6

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
--- eclass/distutils-r1.eclass | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/eclass/distutils-r1.eclass b/eclass/distutils-r1.eclass index e632202..1cf2a49 100644 --- a/eclass/distutils-r1.eclass +++ b/eclass/distutils-r1.eclass @@ -150,6 +150,8 @@ fi # @ECLASS-VARIABLE: EXAMPLES #

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] python-utils-r1.eclass: Make heredocs consistent

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
--- eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass | 10 +- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass b/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass index 7617c3f..4307142 100644 --- a/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass +++ b/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass @@ -933,11 +933,11

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: profiles/

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:14:39 + (UTC) "Sergey Popov" wrote: > commit: efc22f9b89d664fc4d2bb340fb887d62d27b63ed > Author: Sergey Popov gentoo org> > AuthorDate: Wed Nov 25 08:13:48 2015 + > Commit: Sergey Popov gentoo org> > CommitDate: Wed Nov 25

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: x11-libs/fox/, x11-libs/fox/files/

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:03:39 + (UTC) "Lars Wendler" wrote: > commit: f606697478b4d340576e3c0964e30737b9f897f6 > Author: Lars Wendler gentoo org> > AuthorDate: Wed Nov 25 12:02:39 2015 + > Commit: Lars Wendler gentoo org> > CommitDate: Wed Nov 25

[gentoo-dev] repo-mirror-ci now provides exported function info, and cache for pull requests

2015-11-25 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. I'm pleased to announce that the services run by repo-mirror-ci project had received a little update yesterday. I've added three new features: 1. EAPI=6 awareness. All our services are running pkgcore, and sadly pkgcore does not support EAPI=6 yet. While I can't currently afford

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] xdg.eclass: break dependency loop with glib and utility packages

2015-11-25 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Hello all, making gnome2.eclass depend on xdg.eclass has the unfortunate consequence of having xdg utility package in the dependency loop of glib which uses gnome2.eclass for various features (such as gsettings schema compilation). Since there is no other need that I know of to make these