Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: systemd rootprefix migration

On 14/07/17 11:32, Mike Gilbert wrote: > Please share your comments/questions on the proposed news item below. > There is no immediate action required for most users, but it seems > like a significant enough change to warrant a broadcast. > > -- > > Title: systemd rootprefix migration > Author:

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[gentoo-dev] News item: systemd rootprefix migration

Please share your comments/questions on the proposed news item below. There is no immediate action required for most users, but it seems like a significant enough change to warrant a broadcast. -- Title: systemd rootprefix migration Author: Mike Gilbert Posted: 2017-07-14

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

Am 12.07.2017 um 22:03 schrieb Mike Gilbert: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:42 AM, William Hubbs wrote: OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly. Here is the newsitem covering

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Jul 13, 2017 7:42 PM, "Mike Gilbert" wrote: On Jul 13, 2017 7:30 PM, "William Hubbs" wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:52:23AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 07/12/2017

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:52:23AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns > > > about users bricking systems by

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Presumably you'd only want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > But in some scenarios this command is normal. E.g. user installs > Gentoo from some live dvd/flash, makes some mistakes, understands > that system is broken beyond repair and decides to start over again. > If there

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:58:29 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: > > >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to > >> start, since it sounds like openrc will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > We are actually talking about protecting people who run something like > rm -rf /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/ as root. > > If you are dumb enough to do something like that, you almost deserve > to spend a couple hundred on

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to >> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd >> behavior here. >> >> While it seems like

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns > > about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly. > > > > Here is the newsitem

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > I see no problems with compatibility. In case of software needs to > write to efivars (bootloader installation, etc) algo is simple: > > flag = false; > if (mounted(efivars) == RO) { remount(efivars, RW); flag =

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:35:50 +0100 M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to > > start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd > > behavior here. > > > > While it seems like a good idea I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:54:44 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: [...] > >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to > >> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd > >> behavior here. > >> > >> While it seems like a good idea I'm not sure how big an

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:09:45 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 12,

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:09:45 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage > >> wrote: > >> > What

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: > Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to > start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd > behavior here. > > While it seems like a good idea I'm not sure how big an improvement it > is in the larger scheme.

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage >> wrote: >> > What needs to be changed for the bootloaders? I may be able to assist.

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns > about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly. > > Here is the newsitem covering this change. Although the changes seems sensible, I'm wondering if a

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage > wrote: > > What needs to be changed for the bootloaders? I may be able to assist. > > The documentation should be updated to say that with OpenRC 0.28 that > you'll