Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 5/9/2005 13:41:54, Jason Stubbs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Monday 05 September 2005 20:21, Simon Stelling wrote: > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > If it isn't fit to be marked stable, it shouldn't be out of > > > package.mask. ~arch means "candidate for going stable after more > > > testing"

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
We seem to be heading towards a situation where the x86 arch team do all marking of stuff stable on x86. This I like. Some observations - these may be phrased in the affirmative but please take them as observations/suggestions :) 1) The x86 arch team will need to be large(ish) to keep pace. He

Re: [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-01 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 1/9/2005 20:54:14, Stephen P. Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Is it just me, it seems that only sparc/mips devs want that kind of > > change and non none of the x86/amd64 devs... > > > > I still dont see what practical advantage that would bring to x86/amd64 > > users or developers? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] merge amd64 & x86 arches? (was: crap use flags in the profiles)

2005-09-01 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 31/8/2005 9:18:53, Stephen P. Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Keep in mind that the *stable* trees of x86 and amd64 are actually > pretty close to the same versions anyway, I just ran gmsoft's imlate > script for amd64 vs. x86 keywords: hmm; missed a biggie - sys-devel/gcc which is stabl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] crap use flags in the profiles

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 30/8/2005 10:46:54, Stephen P. Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Is this also a good time to note that the amd64 and x86 could *easily* > be covered under the same keyword? The big reason I think, is that few x86 people have a clue about amd64. Contrast this with the mips team; I'd guess mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 27/8/2005 13:34:15, Brian Harring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Rough filtering stack- > profiles/package.mask > /etc/make.profile/package.mask (incremental through subprofiles) > users package.mask, and users package.unmask > > Ordered it in that fashion to show that it's effectively repositor

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 27/8/2005 10:42:25, Brian Harring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hola all. > > Straight to the point, I'm proposing that the following files- > arch.list > categories > use.desc > use.local.desc > package.mask > updates > > be moved out of the profiles directory in the tree Not sure about packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess

2005-08-22 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 21/8/2005 23:05:05, Ciaran McCreesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Now the proposal. This isn't something that can happen immediately, but > it's something I'd like to see us working towards: > > [...] > > * De-cripple the standard xterm definition and remove restrictions from > programs whic

Re: [gentoo-dev] digest + manifest = new file format

2005-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 5/8/2005 4:36:40, Alec Warner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Problems with all of these include the same problems as the cascaded > profiles, some goofball doesn't upgrade for a year, syncs with new > digests...how does he get his portage upgraded? An upgrade path should > be provided and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Modular X plans

2005-08-02 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 2/8/2005 16:30:45, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > I'm still awaiting any solid arguments against x11-proto, and they had > > best be expedited (read below for why). > > Well, I kind of mentioned it on irc, but I'll th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: pre-emerge advisories

2005-07-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 14/7/2005 7:24:03, Craig Lawson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > [...] To be more concrete, I'm thinking of something like a database [...] I don't think a separate database is a good idea; too many sources for information. > [...] For example [...] > current: any > target: =gnome-base/gno

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
I'm with Ned & fozer on this, in general at least. This is the second time this issue has come up over the last month or so; it's what kicks off the flat-tree debate. My preference in practice is to leave the current tree allocation of packages to categories well alone (to avoid unnecessary dis

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 26/5/2005 15:33:10, Roy Marples ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 15:04 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > > I'm trying it on a laptop that connects to various different networks > > depending on the weather. I figured this would be a useful test as >

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 26/5/2005 0:20:02, Mike Frysinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > files - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord Ahh; what fun - that was the stuff I'd tweaked the most :/ The new network stuff is much better, but I do have one hiccough. I'm trying it on a laptop that c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Strange update world output

2005-05-16 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On 16/5/2005 11:09:28, Paul Waring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Given that my USE flags include -X, -gtk, -qt etc. (I don't want any > graphical stuff as this is a server machine, and I've never had > anything like this come up before), why on earth is portage wanting to > install all these new pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Brian Harring wrote: > > The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do not need to be > > > > related. > Yes and no. You're assuming that people don't use the layout on > disk for digging around without calling portage. Personally, I do. Sometimes I do the same; but other times I find

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 07:09:20, Brian Harring wrote: > One thing that just clicked in the skull on why flat-tree has issues; > > currently it's possible to have a package with the same name, yet a > differing category (app-vim/sudo vs app-admin/sudo). Aa flat package namespace would necessitat

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-17 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Mike Frysinger wrote: > as a reminder, NEVER utilize USE=pic in your package unless you know > exactly what it's for and you're sure you need it I figured this use flag should be used to ensure libraries are built as PIC (i.e. conform to the relevant ABI). This is a common problem on the media

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