[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
Peter wrote: > Chris, I am not familiar enough about gentoo's hierarchy, politics, or > team responsibilities to question your sincerity or authority to say > something like: Sorry, but if it isn't supported, it doesn't belong on > Gentoo infrastructure. Then please trust that these people who ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-10 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
Stefan Schweizer wrote: Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: Fine. I highly agree on that, now my question is, why this needs to be officially supported? See "Why does this have to be on official gentoo hardware?" http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq " The FAQ is offlin

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: > Fine. I highly agree on that, now my question is, > why this needs to be officially supported? See "Why does this have to be on official gentoo hardware?" http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 13:28 +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > we do support it security wise, we will be reacting upon security issues. > > We do have package.mask support in the overlay and we are going to use it. > > The ebuilds have a quality, repoman is required to be run. Also > > contributors

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:05:56 +0100 "Chris Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On 09/06/06, Edward Catmur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > And what if they do know what they're doing, and what they're doing | > is subverting Gentoo systems en masse? You're proposing to hand out | > commit access t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Friday 09 June 2006 02:53, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > > It also doesn't answer the questions of security and maintenance. Are > > genstef and jokey going to be responsible for the security of every > > single package in the overlay? > > Yes, we will be acting upon all issues that we hear about.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Bainbridge
On 09/06/06, Edward Catmur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And what if they do know what they're doing, and what they're doing is subverting Gentoo systems en masse? You're proposing to hand out commit access to anyone who makes a case on IRC; you have no way to tell that they aren't an attacker. Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Edward Catmur
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 02:53 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Stefan Schweizer wrote: > it is actually encouraged to update bugzilla when changes are made in the > overlay. Encouraged? If you leave it at that, people will forget, and things will get out of sync. At the very least you should supply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
Peter wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:42:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, I have founded a new Gentoo Project for the Gentoo User Overlay. The intention is to give contributors a single place to put their ebuilds - a place where they can be downloaded, updated and be moved to portage mo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Stefan Schweizer wrote: > ..commit their changes to the overlay instead of updating the bugzilla > every time. it is actually encouraged to update bugzilla when changes are made in the overlay. Here are some more things I found in the current thread: chris > It also doesn't answer the questions of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 12:26 -0400, Peter wrote: > I think this answers an important shortcoming of the bugzilla approach: > vis, some bugs will never make it to the tree -- for any number of > reasons. Take, for example, http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103354, > which has an enhancement requ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:26:50PM -0400, Peter wrote: > And, I'm fine with that. That's their job -- to protect the quality of > their project, and to keep things relatively safe and manageable. > > Nonetheless, the bug is active, with a good number of people subscribing > to it and contributing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:27:47PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Does anyone else see this as a problem? I think it is clear from the comments in this thread that your view is shared by many other Gentoo developers. Regards, Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Metadistribu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Ryan Tandy
Peter wrote: Nonetheless, the bug is active, with a good number of people subscribing to it and contributing to it. The sunshine overlay would be an ideal place to store a kernel source tree or any project which would never find a home in portage. Pardon me if I'm totally confused, but isn't th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 18:04 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Please do not comment on this if you have no real improvements to make and > just fell like commenting, "flaming" it. No. A flame is being insulting to someone. Pointing out problems with an idea is not flaming. Please quit trying to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:29 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Jon Portnoy wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:32:13AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote: > >> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400 > >> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this ch

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Peter
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:42:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Hi, > > I have founded a new Gentoo Project for the Gentoo User Overlay. > > The intention is to give contributors a single place to put their ebuilds - > a place where they can be downloaded, updated and be moved to portage more > ea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Please do not comment on this if you have no real improvements to make and > just fell like commenting, "flaming" it. Please stop ending every reply by ignoring the real issues and claiming its just people 'flaming'. If you honestly think that every person that replies a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
foser wrote: > I don't think the problem with maintainer-wanted ebuilds is that they > are crappy, but that there is no dev willing to maintain them and ensure > their quality over time. 'sunrise' (who came up with that name ? cheap > asian poetry attempt) doesn't change that by adding it to an 'of

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Jon Portnoy wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:32:13AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote: >> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400 >> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct >> > change in games team policy without any prior not