[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Duncan
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:14:48 +0200: Adding more build time, requirements (yes, there are some tests that needs more ram and cpu to complete than the actual build phase) w/out ways to opt out is just hindering our users.

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:01:40 -0400: they realize they have no way at all of disabling the mandatory test ... RESTRICT is an ebuild variable, not a package manager variable this is why implementing it via the profile

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Long
Matthias Langer wrote: Hmm, as an arch tester, i completely agree that packages where src_test fails are an annoyance. However, I would not suggest to activate src_test by default, as for normal users, it just introduces another source of potential defects, without that much benefits. Instead,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: That makes a lot of sense. How about exending it a tiny bit and asking for it to be policy for all ebuilds EAPI=1 not to be allowed into stable without RESTRICT=test, or a functional test suite on the arch in question? The last bit would be automagically checked by the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Matthias Langer
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 14:58 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: Steve Long kirjoitti: That makes a lot of sense. How about exending it a tiny bit and asking for it to be policy for all ebuilds EAPI=1 not to be allowed into stable without RESTRICT=test, or a functional test suite on the arch in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 14 April 2007, Matthias Langer wrote: bug 165085 i'd do some research into the glibc situation before you go pointing at it -mike pgpe73v4Qiw7K.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:24:25 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either way, EAPI=1 *should* have a bit more then just slot deps in my opinion; very least it needs discussion to discern what folks want. Well, EAPI 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 13 April 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either way, EAPI=1 *should* have a bit more then just slot deps in my opinion; very least it needs discussion to discern what folks want.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:11:07 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except there are. Hence why we want EAPI 1 in the short term, not several years from now. The stuff that will take longer can go into a later EAPI. this is really up to the portage team to drive If they instead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 13 April 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except there are. Hence why we want EAPI 1 in the short term, not several years from now. The stuff that will take longer can go into a later EAPI. this is really up to the portage team to drive

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're proposing we suddenly bloat all of our src_install functions for no gain at all How big a bloat is it? Surely it's a coupla lines in the eclasses? Cos the behaviour is inconsistent, as Ciaran pointed out. Well no, they

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:33:09 +0100: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:06:44 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a test suite isn't viable, the ebuild should be RESTRICTing test anyway. which doesnt apply here