On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 01:05 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > It is my opinion that the news reading application need not be
> > integrated into portage. As far as I have understood it, the only real
> > thing that anyone has required portage itself to do is to
> > *automatically* spit out "You have
Jason Stubbs wrote:
To be honest, this is the part that I don't like the most. Integrating code
into portage to copy files here and there based on some predefined rules and
news readers reading and renaming files based on some predefined rules...
A filesystem based API just doesn't seem very ro
On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:34, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 13:39 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Saturday 12 November 2005 07:19, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > > When we have emerge --news done,
> >
> > I keep seeing references to "emerge --news" but at the same time am
> > see
On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 13:39 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Saturday 12 November 2005 07:19, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > When we have emerge --news done,
>
> I keep seeing references to "emerge --news" but at the same time am seeing
> that news readers are external. What exactly is `emerge --news`
Georgi Georgiev posted
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:27:47 +0900:
> maillog: 11/11/2005-05:48:50(-0700): Duncan types
>> Perhaps $PORTDIR/news, with seen and unseen subdirs (and appropriate
>> no-sync settings on the subdirs)
>
> Remember that $PORTDIR can be share
On Saturday 12 November 2005 07:19, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> When we have emerge --news done,
I keep seeing references to "emerge --news" but at the same time am seeing
that news readers are external. What exactly is `emerge --news` meant to do?
Print out "You've got news!"? Manage some external
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 10:03 +0100, Grobian wrote:
> Ok, you want a reaction, because you are Feeling Blue[1], right.
The only reaction I want is for us to meet the goals that I have set
out, instead of trying to move those goals.
> You describe here (and in your diary) the aim to reach 100% of ou
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 10:03 +0100, Grobian wrote:
> On 10-11-2005 20:55:37 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
>
> I am just in the opinion that we lack a system where users can find the
> information they need. That would help a certain type of users,
> absolutely not all of them. So yes, after that,
On 10-11-2005 20:55:37 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
Ok, you want a reaction, because you are Feeling Blue[1], right.
> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 20:11 +0100, Grobian wrote:
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
> > > for things.
> >
>
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 20:11 +0100, Grobian wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
> > for things.
>
> Doesn't matter.
I think it does. I believe that is the root cause of our difficulty in
getting news to our users. We rely on o
7.11.2005, 20:11:23, Grobian wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:32:38 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> | So, what list should the user that wants to receive those
>> | **important** messages sign up to?
>>
>> That's your first misconception right there. Most use
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:11:23 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Besides that, I see no arguments why users don't. No proof either.
Have a look at how amazingly well certain recent upgrades have gone...
| Forcing a push-based method on someone who likes pull-based methods
| is evil. The
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 14:02 -0500, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> > place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
> > the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> > Th
[snip]
> After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
> the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> Though, subscribed to gentoo-announce means you get nothing but GLSA
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:32:38 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| So, what list should the user that wants to receive those
| **important** messages sign up to?
That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
for things.
Doesn't matter. If th
[snip]
> After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
> the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> Though, subscribed to gentoo-announce means you get nothing but GLSA
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:32:38 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| So, what list should the user that wants to receive those
| **important** messages sign up to?
That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
for things.
--
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Anti-XML
Stuart Herbert wrote:
By your own admission, you're on the announce list, and but you didn't
know about the Apache changes. Imagine how many other users were in the
same situation. Imagine how many other users never signed up to the
announce list in the first place.
On gentoo-dev, gentoo-user
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 09:27 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> They shouldn't /have/ to, but the option is there. Those who care about
> security and care about getting a heads-up on "major" changes of this
> nature, will find several opportunities to be notified of them.
That's not the point behind the pu
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:47:47 +:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:38:47 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | While I agree with the point you make, I don't believe the apache
> | upgrade issues were announced on the announce list. Th
John Myers posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
excerpted below, on Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:18:33 -0800:
> On Sunday 06 November 2005 13:38, Duncan wrote:
>> I don't believe the apache upgrade issues were announced on the announce
>> list.
> For the record, it was sent to the announce list on 2004-12-24.
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