Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:25:25 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Mark Loeser wrote: | > I don't really see why anyone that is marking an ebuild stable | > needs to have a fatal error because an older version of that | > package isn't ported yet. We are perfectly capable of mentionin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-02-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Loeser wrote: > I don't really see why anyone that is marking an ebuild stable needs to have > a fatal error because an older version of that package isn't ported yet. We > are perfectly capable of mentioning this on the bug so the maintainer can fix > it later :) A flag to ignore it will mak

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Mark Loeser
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 02:28, Mark Loeser wrote: > > We are talking about completely unrelated versions, not what we are > > touching. > > For example, old imagemagick ebuilds sitting around, where the newer ebuilds > > are fixed, but old ones are no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 02:28, Mark Loeser wrote: > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Is there any need for the packages to go into stable without the X deps > > being > > fixed? Why not just open a bug for the package maintainer and mark it > > against > > whatever bug is reques

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:41:36 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Mark Loeser wrote: | > We are talking about completely unrelated versions, not what we are | > touching. For example, old imagemagick ebuilds sitting around, | > where the newer ebuilds are fixed, but old ones are not.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Loeser wrote: > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Is there any need for the packages to go into stable without the X deps >> being >> fixed? Why not just open a bug for the package maintainer and mark it >> against >> whatever bug is requesting stabling of that package? Moving some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Mark Loeser
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Is there any need for the packages to go into stable without the X deps being > fixed? Why not just open a bug for the package maintainer and mark it against > whatever bug is requesting stabling of that package? Moving something to > stable that you know

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 13:49, Joshua Jackson wrote: > Mark Loeser gentoo.org> writes: > > Donnie Berkholz gentoo.org> said: > > > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > The patch now has the debugging output and x11-base/xorg-x11 check > > > > removed. > > > > > > Excellent. Works perfectly. Since we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Joshua Jackson wrote: > To quote one of the ebuild-quiz questions: You wish to make a change > to an ebuild, but you checked the ChangeLogs and metadata.xml and it > appears to be maintained by someone else. How should you proceed? > > A general response that is obtained from the documentation so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Joshua Jackson wrote: >> In the oldest version of the package (as all these were), I don't >> see much point in the change. They will be removed within a >> fairly short amount of time. > > Fairly short meaning what, 6 months?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Joshua Jackson wrote: > In the oldest version of the package (as all these were), I don't see > much point in the change. They will be removed within a fairly short > amount of time. Fairly short meaning what, 6 months? A lot of old ebuilds tend to stick around forever. > Secondary, you are sugg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Joshua Jackson wrote: >> I will have to agree that this change has made it a pain to mark >> anything >> stable. I had 4 out of the 6 I did today bail out because of this. >> I took the >> simple easy fix and removed the check

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Joshua Jackson wrote: I will have to agree that this change has made it a pain to mark anything stable. I had 4 out of the 6 I did today bail out because of this. I took the simple easy fix and removed the check to stabalize the packages I needed to. I know we have people who want modular X yeste

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua Jackson
Mark Loeser gentoo.org> writes: > > Donnie Berkholz gentoo.org> said: > > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > The patch now has the debugging output and x11-base/xorg-x11 check > > > removed. > > > > Excellent. Works perfectly. Since we're failing on them, perhaps we can > > say "obsolete" instead of "

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Duncan
Wernfried Haas posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:52:29 +0100: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:44:28PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote: >> We should aim for when it will be done in a way that minimizes the >> breakage for all of our users. Yes, breakage will happen, but we

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:55:04 -0500: > I guess the deal here is to not encourage this type of behavior; > intentially breaking ~arch all the time and then making the arch teams > "clean up" so to speak. I don't believe this to be the case h