Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:57:44 +0100 Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It'd perhaps make sense to extend the DTD for metadata.xml, so that the > tag has 'type' and 'organisation' attributes. This would > allow tools to tell the difference between an entry for a Gentoo > maintainer, and a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:58 +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > Stupid question .. why does webapps.eclass have SLOT=${PVR} ? If you're running a hosting server, and have many customers using the same app, it may not be practical to bump them all at the same time. * They may have different busy per

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 20:10 +0200, Radoslaw Stachowiak wrote: > On 7/5/05, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based apps. > > Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the > network? That's for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 00:30 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > Hmm, what's the criteria to decide if something falls under this policy > or not? Package category, maintainership, dependency on webserver, ...? > > Marius The only criteria I can suggest is that any package which is maintained by the web-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 23:12 +0100, David Morgan wrote: > > > 1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact > > >UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact > > >UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is > > >unreachable). >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 17:52 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > 3. This information will be checked every three months to ensure it > >remains valid. > > Are you volunteering to do 3? If not, who will? I'm proposing that 3. is the responsibility of the webapps herd Strategic and Operational Leads

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 15:40 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > Yeah, having it in metadata.xml would make more sense. We can do that. It'd perhaps make sense to extend the DTD for metadata.xml, so that the tag has 'type' and 'organisation' attributes. This would allow tools to tell the differenc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 11:58 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 20:10, Radoslaw Stachowiak wrote: > > Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the > > network? > Webapps are simpler to install to base users, they are generally just a > "ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 20:10, Radoslaw Stachowiak wrote: > Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the > network? Webapps are simpler to install to base users, they are generally just a "extract, change perms, execute php stuff". Other stuff is quite more difficult,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: > Thoughts, comments, other (constructive) feedback? > > Best regards, > Stu Sorry for my delayed response.. Just now getting caught up on my mail from the last week. I'm definitely in favor of something like this. Btw, I a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-06 Thread Radoslaw Stachowiak
On 7/5/05, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based apps. Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the network? -- radoslaw. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:21:35 +0100 Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based > apps. If there are no objections, every new web-based app will have > to conform to the policy before it can be added to the tree. Every > ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Renat Lumpau
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 05:52:47PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > 3. This information will be checked every three months to ensure it > >remains valid. > > Are you volunteering to do 3? If not, who will? I'll help. -- Renat Lumpau Gentoo developer GPG key id #C6A838DA on http://pgp.mit.edu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread David Morgan
> > 1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact > >UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact > >UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is > >unreachable). And what happens if upstream is only one person? -- djm --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: > Hi, > > > 1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact >UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact >UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is >unrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2005 04:21 pm, Stuart Herbert wrote: > >>1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact >> UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact >> UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is >> unre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 04:21 pm, Stuart Herbert wrote: > 1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact >UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact >UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is >unreachable). > 2. This informa

[gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based apps. If there are no objections, every new web-based app will have to conform to the policy before it can be added to the tree. Every existing web-based app will have to conform to the policy by the end of August, or I will re