Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-07-23 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 22 of June 2010 19:14:38 Arun Raghavan wrote: On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Any objections? I'll wait till Wed (June 23rd) before adding this if there aren't any. Is anyone here vehemently against introspection. Not vehemently, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-25 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2010-06-23 at 09:33 +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 23 June 2010 01:47, Mike Auty ike...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Which should not be an issue since any library that has some sort of introspection can use this flag (and the use.desc can be changed appropriately at that time if it does

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
tis 2010-06-22 klockan 15:17 +0530 skrev Arun Raghavan: On 21 June 2010 21:23, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] I'm still trying to think of a good name. I understand the concerns about introspection being too generic and non GNOME-y, but gir is likely to cause confusion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/06/10 15:33, Arun Raghavan wrote: Why not just gintrospection? I still think introspection is easier to grok. It's unlikely that it's going to be used in a completely different sense by other packages in the future, so let's stick with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Jacob Godserv
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:33, Mike Auty ike...@gentoo.org wrote: Gintrospection gives more information (things starting with g are generally gnome related, which this is), and grepping for introspection will still turn it up.  It also solves the concerns that all the people on this thread

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Any objections? I'll wait till Wed (June 23rd) before adding this if there aren't any. Is anyone here vehemently against introspection. -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) (arunsr | GNOME)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 22 June 2010 22:03, Mike Auty ike...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] I still think introspection is easier to grok. It's unlikely that it's going to be used in a completely different sense by other packages in the future, so let's stick with introspection please. Gintrospection gives more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/06/10 18:11, Arun Raghavan wrote: It is not a GNOME-only flag. A general introspection flag may not be, but this isn't a general introspection flag, this is specific to gobject and the suggestions try to clarify that. People who want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 23 June 2010 01:47, Mike Auty ike...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Which should not be an issue since any library that has some sort of introspection can use this flag (and the use.desc can be changed appropriately at that time if it does not use gobject-introspection). Why have to change it in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Monday 21 June 2010 07:44:50 Arun Raghavan wrote: On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] We already have 13 packages using this flag, with several more to come. The current description being used in packages' metadata.xml sucks - I'll put something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various languages why not naming the useflag gobject-introspection then ? Mostly because it seems exceedingly verbose to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Monday 21 June 2010 09:53:02 Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various languages why not naming the useflag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 6/21/10 8:53 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various languages why not naming the useflag gobject-introspection then ?

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Duncan
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. posted on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:04:03 +0200 as excerpted: On 6/21/10 8:53 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Olivier Crête
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 09:07 +, Duncan wrote: Paweł Hajdan, Jr. posted on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:04:03 +0200 as excerpted: On 6/21/10 8:53 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
Am 21.06.2010 09:04, schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.: I think that introspection is similarly too general. What about calling the useflag GIR (or gir)? If the user does not know what it stands for, he will hopefully look up the description to see what it means. And in contrast to introspection the

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Duncan
Olivier Crête posted on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:46:58 -0400 as excerpted: It's not the bindings... It's introspection data that describes the API. Well, the bindings themselves are dynamic, but this is what enables them, according to the description. Only explaining all that is a bit long to

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 20-06-2010 a las 20:12 +0530, Arun Raghavan escribió: Hi folks, I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection. The purpose of the flag is to enable the building of GIR for the package using dev-libs/gobject-introspection. gobject-introspection is going to be quite

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-20 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El dom, 20-06-2010 a las 20:12 +0530, Arun Raghavan escribió: Hi folks, I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection. [snip] Any objections? I'll wait till Wed (June 23rd) before adding this if there aren't any.

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 21-06-2010 a las 03:05 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan escribió: I agree with having it as a new global USE-flag, but I am unsure about enabling it by default just now, since some automagic dependency problems appeared some time ago :-/, but I will leave this decision to other Gnome team

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-20 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] We already have 13 packages using this flag, with several more to come. The current description being used in packages' metadata.xml sucks - I'll put something more descriptive in the final flag. Here's the description