Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 14/02/15 19:41, Fabio Erculiani wrote: If only libav and ffmpeg developers would stop breaking their API on every release... Just break it once and for all. It's so sad that I still can't upgrade from libav-9 because of this. Feature request: could you stop breaking the API for a couple of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:34:57 +0100 Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: Sadly the time I can spend doing opensource stuff can be compressed from time to time and maybe is nicer develop interesting stuff such as useful API and features than write tons of s:CODEC_ID:AV_CODEC_ID: over

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-09 Thread Luca Barbato
On 09/02/15 10:17, Alexis Ballier wrote: (nb: you can see that this precise one is mostly fixed already.) I hope it is completely fixed already =\ lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-08 Thread Ian Whyman
On 8 February 2015 at 03:20, Jason A. Donenfeld zx...@gentoo.org wrote: The votes keep pouring in. Ffmpeg is the preference of Gentoo users, as well as the majority of Gentoo developers, and by a very relevant upstream author. I don't think a forum poll, or a poll of users for that matter is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-08 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:19:18 + Ian Whyman thev00...@gentoo.org wrote: On 8 February 2015 at 03:20, Jason A. Donenfeld zx...@gentoo.org wrote: The votes keep pouring in. Ffmpeg is the preference of Gentoo users, as well as the majority of Gentoo developers, and by a very relevant

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-02-2015 a las 12:19 +, Ian Whyman escribió: [...] So long as libav is effectively dictating the API then by defaulting to ffmpeg we are just delaying the inevitable breakage htting the tree. I know there are people who think we shouldn't break unstable, but I personally prefer a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-08 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/02/15 17:13, Alexis Ballier wrote: What we need instead of such endless debate happy bashing (been there, done that) is people doing the work. That's what will improve the distribution. I thought letting libav be the default would improve that; If nobody helps fixing the orphaned and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-07 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On 07/02/15 05:16, Ben de Groot wrote: I discussed this beforehand with said developer on IRC. Ok, that wasn't clear from the commit message. Do you think a news item to explain this situation and giving explicit instructions for users who

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-06 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 February 2015 at 10:08, Mike Auty ike...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] I was concerned that a warning which had been in place in package.mask since September was removed by a different developer than the one who put it in place, I discussed this beforehand with said developer on IRC. and

[gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-06 Thread Duncan
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Fri, 06 Feb 2015 12:57:35 +0100 as excerpted: I tried to choose the options' wording carefully, in order to get as much information as possible from a single poll. Thanks for your wisdom in wording (which, contrary to some others, I agreed with, because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On 06/02/15 08:48, Duncan wrote: Daniel Campbell posted on Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:55:05 -0800 as excerpted: As a user and prospective developer, why? Transparency is important to open communities like Gentoo's, and reading the discussions

[gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-06 Thread Duncan
Daniel Campbell posted on Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:55:05 -0800 as excerpted: On 02/04/2015 04:43 AM, Mike Auty wrote: It's fine to have disagreements, but airing them in front of the users like this is not an ideal situation... As a user and prospective developer, why? Transparency is important