Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/22/2017 05:51 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox >>> >> >> I think I understand, in principle, why a sandbox could be useful, but >> would i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 5:51 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox > > > > I think I understand, in principle, why a sandbox could be useful, but > would it not be more productive to follow up with projects w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/22/2017 05:51 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox >> > > I think I understand, in principle, why a sandbox could be useful, but > would it not be more productive to follow up with projects which do > un

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox > I think I understand, in principle, why a sandbox could be useful, but would it not be more productive to follow up with projects which do unexpected things to ask that they not do those thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 20∶31 +0200, użytkownik Alexis Ballier napisał: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:39:16 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 19∶15 +0200, użytkownik Alexis > > Ballier napisał: > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:20:23 +0200 > > > Michał Górny wro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:39:16 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 19∶15 +0200, użytkownik Alexis > Ballier napisał: > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:20:23 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 12∶57 +0200, użytkownik Alexis > > > Ballier

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 19∶15 +0200, użytkownik Alexis Ballier napisał: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:20:23 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 12∶57 +0200, użytkownik Alexis > > Ballier napisał: > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 > > > Michał Górny wro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Patrick McLean
On 2017-09-22 10:03 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:06:49 + > James McMechan wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Rich Freeman >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Sergei Trofimovich >>> wrote: Some other distros try harder to isolate build

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:20:23 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 12∶57 +0200, użytkownik Alexis > Ballier napisał: > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt > > > Turner nap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:06:49 + James McMechan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Rich Freeman > wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Sergei Trofimovich > > wrote: > >> > >> Some other distros try harder to isolate build environment either > >> through chroot and/or private mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 12∶57 +0200, użytkownik Alexis Ballier napisał: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt Turner > > napisał: > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny > > > wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread James McMechan
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: >> >> Some other distros try harder to isolate build environment either >> through chroot and/or private mount/user/network namespace that >> contains only explicitly specified files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > Some other distros try harder to isolate build environment either > through chroot and/or private mount/user/network namespace that > contains only explicitly specified files in build environment. > > That would require more cooperatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:38:54 +0100 Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:57:21 +0200 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt > > > Turner napisał: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:57:21 +0200 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt Turner > > napisał: > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny > > > wrote: > > > > Given that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-22 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny > > wrote: > > > Given that sandbox is utterly broken by design, I don't really > > > want to put too much

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt Turner napisał: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Given that sandbox is utterly broken by design, I don't really want to > > put too much effort in trying to make it a little better. I'd rather put > > the mini

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Given that sandbox is utterly broken by design, I don't really want to > put too much effort in trying to make it a little better. I'd rather put > the minimal effort required to make it not-much-worse. You said in your initial email that you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Patrick McLean
On 2017-09-21 02:07 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 22:54, kirjutas Michał Górny: >> W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 23∶33 +0300, użytkownik Mart >> Raudsepp >> napisał: >>> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 21:56, kirjutas Michał Górny: Hi, everyone. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu pią, 22.09.2017 o godzinie 00∶07 +0300, użytkownik Mart Raudsepp napisał: > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 22:54, kirjutas Michał Górny: > > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 23∶33 +0300, użytkownik Mart > > Raudsepp > > napisał: > > > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 21:56, kirj

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 22:54, kirjutas Michał Górny: > W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 23∶33 +0300, użytkownik Mart > Raudsepp > napisał: > > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 21:56, kirjutas Michał Górny: > > > Hi, everyone. > > > > > > TL;DR: I'm looking for new people to re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 23∶33 +0300, użytkownik Mart Raudsepp napisał: > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 21:56, kirjutas Michał Górny: > > Hi, everyone. > > > > TL;DR: I'm looking for new people to resume work on sandbox, and I > > will > > most likely branch it at v2.10 and start

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 21.09.2017 kell 21:56, kirjutas Michał Górny: > Hi, everyone. > > TL;DR: I'm looking for new people to resume work on sandbox, and I > will > most likely branch it at v2.10 and start keep-alive work on top of > that. > > > The state of our sandbox is not very well. Gentoo i

[gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project

2017-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, everyone. TL;DR: I'm looking for new people to resume work on sandbox, and I will most likely branch it at v2.10 and start keep-alive work on top of that. The state of our sandbox is not very well. Gentoo is currently using the old v2.10 with local patches. v2.11 is p.masked for a long time