Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sunday 27 November 2005 16:30, Dan Meltzer wrote: > Could this debug info be NFS shared? assuming like computers, or would > it be different on each computer. It is probably as shareable as normal library files are. Maybe there is more in common, but if the source was different, the end result

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:50, Ned Ludd wrote: > Good afternoon, > > probably in portage-2.0.54 a patch will be added to emit split debug > info. Having a split debug allows us to retain all the advantages of > stripping executables while gaining the ability to properly debug > executables in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Edward Catmur
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 10:18 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 27/11/2005-13:54:33(+0100): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types > > On Sunday 27 November 2005 00:10, Luca Barbato wrote: > > > It's great! > > > Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. > > +1, and it would be better if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 27/11/2005-13:54:33(+0100): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types > On Sunday 27 November 2005 00:10, Luca Barbato wrote: > > It's great! > > Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. > +1, and it would be better if the FEATURES, instead of removing the generated > files, would disable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 12:50 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > Good afternoon, > > probably in portage-2.0.54 a patch will be added to emit split debug > info. Having a split debug allows us to retain all the advantages of > stripping executables while gaining the ability to properly debug > executables in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Edward Catmur
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 09:39 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 11/27/05, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 27 November 2005 00:10, Luca Barbato wrote: > > > It's great! > > > Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. > > +1, and it would be better if the FEATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Dan Meltzer
Random thought May be completely off base. Could this debug info be NFS shared? assuming like computers, or would it be different on each computer. On 11/27/05, Tavis Ormandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > > I'm in favor of it enabled

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Tavis Ormandy
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > I'm in favor of it enabled per default but I'd like to know what you > think and why. (advantages of on/off by default etc..) > This should definitely be enabled by default, we dont need to enable debugging information for this to be use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 09:39 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 11/27/05, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 27 November 2005 00:10, Luca Barbato wrote: > > > It's great! > > > Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. > > +1, and it would be better if the FEATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 27 November 2005 15:39, Dan Meltzer wrote: > Err, maybe I am incorrect, but isn't it more "work" to ungenerate them > (using strip) then to just not install them? Their creation in-line of a binary is probably a simpler work (for the disk) than having to split them out, but I might be wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 11/27/05, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 27 November 2005 00:10, Luca Barbato wrote: > > It's great! > > Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. > +1, and it would be better if the FEATURES, instead of removing the generated > files, would disable the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 27 November 2005 00:10, Luca Barbato wrote: > It's great! > Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. +1, and it would be better if the FEATURES, instead of removing the generated files, would disable the building of them completely, mainly because "work" systems with limited CP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 19:48 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 11/26/05, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ned Ludd wrote: > > > Good afternoon, > > > > > > Would you be willing to give up space in $ROOT/usr/lib/debug for ELF > > > executables by default in order to aid in better debugging by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 11/26/05, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > Would you be willing to give up space in $ROOT/usr/lib/debug for ELF > > executables by default in order to aid in better debugging by or do we > > want to only emit it when a FEATURE= is defined. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Luca Barbato
Ned Ludd wrote: [snip] It's great! Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Ned Ludd wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Would you be willing to give up space in $ROOT/usr/lib/debug for ELF > executables by default in order to aid in better debugging by or do we > want to only emit it when a FEATURE= is defined. > > Having a split debug pretty much obsoletes the need to add nos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > Would you be willing to give up space in $ROOT/usr/lib/debug for ELF > executables by default in order to aid in better debugging by or do we > want to only emit it when a FEATURE= is defined. would make more sense to have it be a FEATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Ivan Yosifov
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 12:50 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > Good afternoon, > > probably in portage-2.0.54 a patch will be added to emit split debug > info. Having a split debug allows us to retain all the advantages of > stripping executables while gaining the ability to properly debug > executables in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Olivier Crête
On Sat, 2005-26-11 at 12:50 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > I'm in favor of it enabled per default but I'd like to know what you > think and why. (advantages of on/off by default etc..) First, I fully support solar's patch, this feature should have been integrated into portage months ago. > Anybody want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Bruno
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:50, Ned Ludd wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Would you be willing to give up space in $ROOT/usr/lib/debug for ELF > executables by default in order to aid in better debugging by or do we > want to only emit it when a FEATURE= is defined. For me either way is good as lon

[gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Ned Ludd
Good afternoon, probably in portage-2.0.54 a patch will be added to emit split debug info. Having a split debug allows us to retain all the advantages of stripping executables while gaining the ability to properly debug executables in bfd aware programs. It's been in testing with a small hand full