[gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
Hi all, So there have been many complaints about how USE_EXPANDed flags don't belong in IUSE. There haven't actually been any reasons given though. :P I've assumed that the reasons they haven't been added thus far are due to what emerge's output would look like if they were. So I've taken the l

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-19 Thread Alin Nastac
Jason Stubbs wrote: >So there have been many complaints about how USE_EXPANDed flags don't belong >in IUSE. There haven't actually been any reasons given though. :P > > > net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r1 depends on LINGUAS, but the list of supported languages is created in pkg_unpack, based on wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-19 Thread Sven Wegener
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 07:48:27PM +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > >So there have been many complaints about how USE_EXPANDed flags don't belong > >in IUSE. There haven't actually been any reasons given though. :P > net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r1 depends on LINGUAS, but the li

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 20 June 2005 01:48, Alin Nastac wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > So there have been many complaints about how USE_EXPANDed flags don't > > belong in IUSE. There haven't actually been any reasons given though. :P > > net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r1 depends on LINGUAS, but the list of > supp

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: > FRITZCAPI_CARDS FCDSL_CARDS VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS > > Do any of these not follow the same pattern of empty var == all installed? > Any > objections to making that a requirement for adding a new USE_EXPAND variable?

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Jason Stubbs wrote: >On Monday 20 June 2005 01:48, Alin Nastac wrote: > > >>net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r1 depends on LINGUAS, but the list of >>supported languages is created in pkg_unpack, based on what tarball >>contains. >> >> > >What happened to determinism and predictability? From the

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:35, Alin Nastac wrote: > I don't really understand why you consider pppconfig unpredictable. > the ebuild displays what languages will be installed. Because there is no way to foretell what will be installed without actually initiating an install. > > >The IUSE thing w

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 05:28, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:35, Alin Nastac wrote: > > This would be fine as long as LINGUAS do not appear in IUSE. When > > LINGUAS var is empty, the "equery uses" report would be an abomination . > > The whole point is to add this stuff to IUS

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:11, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > FRITZCAPI_CARDS FCDSL_CARDS VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS > > > > Do any of these not follow the same pattern of empty var == all > > installed? Any objections to making that a requirement for adding a new > > USE_E

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: > Any reason why INPUT_DEVICES is needed in USE_EXPAND rather than just as > local > USE flags? It's kind of the odd one out among the above. The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sense as USE flags, so it

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: Any reason why INPUT_DEVICES is needed in USE_EXPAND rather than just as local USE flags? It's kind of the odd one out among the above. The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sens

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sense as > USE flags, so it should be something else. In this case, that was > INPUT_DEVICES. We haven't been able to take much advantage of it y

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-08-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 02:07, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sense as > > USE flags, so it should be something else. In this case, that was > > INPUT_DEVICES. We haven't been able to take muc