Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-29 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 08/24/2016 10:08, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 24-08-2016 a las 16:05 +0200, Lars Wendler escribió: >> > [...] >> Oh, and to all new team members: >> Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, >> so >> we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old >> s

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/25/2016 01:01 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > >> Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today >> it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one >> maintainer. The packages with more tha

Re: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care)

2016-08-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08/25/2016 11:59 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > Given that so much needs to be learned and a lot of trust goes into > developers, it's no surprise that we tend to take our time accepting > people. That said, I chalk it up to a manpower problem. As far as I know > the recruiting and proxy-maint tea

Re: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care)

2016-08-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/24/2016 08:24 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > This...kinda touches on a side issue. I've been a bit waylaid by RL > issues during my quest to become a developer myself, and both of my > prospective mentors had to step aside for the same reason before the > process could finish. > > I'm a litt

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-25 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the othe

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-25 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:32:55 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Lars Wendler > wrote: > > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages > > yet, so we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very > > old systems. > > What's the time fra

Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care)

2016-08-24 Thread Raymond Jennings
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the other ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2016, 16:05:05 schrieb Lars Wendler: > > Oh, and to all new team members: > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, so > we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old systems. > That won't help anyone with upgrading. Large p

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 08:11:38PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:17:58PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > net-misc/dhcpcd (upstream?) > > I maintain dhcpcd; I'm not sure why it is on this list. > In fact, there is a stablereq still pending on 6.11.1-r1. > > Upstream i

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 04:05:05PM +0200, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:08:30 -0400 Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > >On 8/23/16 8:03 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > >> I have some kind of interest for these packages: > > > >Lars, maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of > >b

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/24/2016 11:32 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Lars Wendler > wrote: >> Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, so >> we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old systems. > > What's the time frame for lifting that

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > General increase in the number of developers in base-system would not be > a bad outcome from this email either ;-). I am considering joining, if only to have some input and greater transparency on decision making. For example, I have no

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Lars Wendler wrote: > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, so > we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old systems. What's the time frame for lifting that restriction? There are some key packages that base-sys

Upgrading Old Gentoo - Was Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 24/08/16 15:08, Pacho Ramos wrote: > This reminds me a question I have for some time: is it documented in > some place what are the steps to follow for updating old systems? I > remember posts like: > http://blog.siphos.be/2013/12/upgrading-old-gentoo-installations/ > > but I don't know if that

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Lars Wendler
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:08:30 -0400 Anthony G. Basile wrote: >On 8/23/16 8:03 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: >> I have some kind of interest for these packages: > >Lars, maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of >base-system together and coordinate our efforts. In particular, I >mostly ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 24-08-2016 a las 16:05 +0200, Lars Wendler escribió: > [...] > Oh, and to all new team members: > Please keep in mind to *not* use EAPI-6 for base-system packages yet, > so > we can retain a somewhat stable upgrade path even for very old > systems. > > > Kind regards > Lars This reminds

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Jason Zaman
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:17:58PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Patrick McLean
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > Some of these packages are very niche, and while they continue to > work, they could use a bit more attention than they get presently > (you might only hear about them when they break and never when they > work). > > They are genera

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:17:58PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > net-misc/dhcpcd (upstream?) I maintain dhcpcd; I'm not sure why it is on this list. In fact, there is a stablereq still pending on 6.11.1-r1. Upstream is reachable on the #openrc chat channel. > sys-apps/baselayout I can become

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Benda Xu
Hi, "Anthony G. Basile" writes: > maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of > base-system together and coordinate our efforts. I am interested in keeping the base packages working on Prefix, especially bash and baselayout. Please count me in. Benda

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/23/16 8:03 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > I have some kind of interest for these packages: Lars, maybe once we get some names we should get a meeting of base-system together and coordinate our efforts. In particular, I mostly have interest in those packages that make up @system for the stages I b

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Lars Wendler
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:17:58 + Robin H. Johnson wrote: >Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today >it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one >maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only >concerned about if the other maint

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 8/23/16 7:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today I've been doing some base-system related stuff because of uclibc/-ng and musl on minor arches, building stage3's for those. My involvement has been marginal because my emphasis is n

[gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only concerned about if the other maintainer is also very busy or not available. Some of these package