Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-05 Thread Patrick McLean
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 01:54:51 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:04:38 -0500 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > What you really want is another template file. > > I'd be happy with that. See the other thread with "grub-2" In the > title. > > > I'm happy with mkconfig, but I did hand-r

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-05 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:04:38 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > What you really want is another template file. I'd be happy with that. See the other thread with "grub-2" In the title. > I'm happy with mkconfig, but I did hand-roll my config files before > that. The docs are out there. However, for wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 22:22:12 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> How do you generate your grub-0 config files? > > I didn't, it came as a stock example file with comments which I edited > in a minimal fashion until it worked. > Not a surprise, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 22:22:12 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > How do you generate your grub-0 config files? I didn't, it came as a stock example file with comments which I edited in a minimal fashion until it worked. > > You can just use the same method to generate the grub-2 ones... No, I regenera

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > Hence, a more sensible default instead of mkconfig that emits a config > file that mortals can sensibly edit ( including relevant inline comments > describing what is done ) would be a smart move that would go a long > way. > How do you gene

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:28:55 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > If you know grub well, you can hand write a grub.cfg without > using grub-mkconfig at all. There is a perception that you need > grub-mkconfig, but this is not true. I guess the problem is neither knowing "grub well" or liking mkconfig.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-04 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 05:04:12PM -0500, Dan Douglas wrote: > Also grub2-mkconfig is disgusting. I wonder if anybody is interested > in making something better because I doubt it would be much work for > someone that knows grub well. 90% of what it does is generate > boilerplate code that few peop

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Dan Douglas wrote: > I'm not against removing grub1, but why are the only versions of grub > in the tree betas? They don't have a proper release cycle? The upstream grub maintainer has been too busy to work on a release. He has recently recruited some people to hel

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-04 Thread Dan Douglas
I'm not against removing grub1, but why are the only versions of grub in the tree betas? They don't have a proper release cycle? Also grub2-mkconfig is disgusting. I wonder if anybody is interested in making something better because I doubt it would be much work for someone that knows grub well. 9

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/03/2016 05:59 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > - The only real problem with grub:2 has to do with pperception. Yes, > their documentation has a strong preference toward using their > configuration script (grub-mkconfig) to generate your grub.cfg, but > this is not required. > Migration

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-03 Thread Matthias Maier
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016, at 16:59 CDT, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I want to look into removing grub:0 from the tree; here are my thoughts > on why it should go. > > - the handbook doesn't document grub:0; we officially only support > grub:2. > > - Removing grub:0 from the tree doesn't stop y

[gentoo-dev] rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
All, I want to look into removing grub:0 from the tree; here are my thoughts on why it should go. - the handbook doesn't document grub:0; we officially only support grub:2. - There are multiple bugs open against grub:0 (15 at my last count). A number of these as I understand it are because o