Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-10 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2010.03.10 12:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: > the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar > (see side > bar). [snip] > > the access step requires a bit of help though -- simply e-mail me off > list > your gmail account and we can get you set up. once you have access, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-10 Thread Dror Levin
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 14:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: > the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see > side > bar). this has been around for a while, but it seems it's been more of an > "underground" thing, so it's time to raise its awareness. > > like other aspects of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-10 Thread Alex Alexander
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 08:18:11AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 10 March 2010 07:56:42 Alex Alexander wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:45:21AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see > > > side bar). this has b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 07:56:42 Alex Alexander wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:45:21AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see > > side bar). this has been around for a while, but it seems it's been > > more of an "undergrou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-10 Thread Alex Alexander
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:45:21AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see side > bar). this has been around for a while, but it seems it's been more of an > "underground" thing, so it's time to raise its awareness. > > like other

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2010-02-22 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2009 13:57:40 Alex Alexander wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:08, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> Some devs have complained about the directory structure in the >>> gentoo-news being too complicated. News item files are curren

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Mozilla Team meeting decisions

2010-02-21 Thread volkmar
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 02:31:25AM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > -> Ebuilds for Extensions in-tree: The Gentoo Mozilla team will not > ship ebuilds for extensions such as noscript and weave anymore. We > will only have ebuilds for extensions which are linux-specific and > compiled; such as enigm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix Lite Quiz

2009-12-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
On Friday 18 December 2009 14:00:06 Fabian Groffen wrote: > As promised, here is the slimmed down version of the Prefix quiz. As > requested, I'll post the answers on -core. > > > Prefix development quiz (Zero taste) > > ** when porting ebuilds for Gentoo Prefix, one will get confronted with >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-26 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 25-11-2009 16:43:32 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > > Yes, I agreed coming up with some patch.  I admit I haven't yet even > > looked into it. > > Great, thanks. If you can have it ready some time before the meeting > so that all devs can get a chance to review it before the council > members vo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-26 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 25-11-2009 17:01:19 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > It looks like this question is still unanswered: > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > >> How are dynamically linked set*id programs going to work? Depends on how the host OS/libc handles this :) If you're root, you ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-26 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 25-11-2009 16:43:32 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > Things seem to be progressing nicely on this front. We have answers to > the questions people had and they look satisfactory to me. > > One thing that I think would be valuable is a document that explains > the average dev how to make his/her e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It looks like this question is still unanswered: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> How are dynamically linked set*id programs going to work? Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Things seem to be progressing nicely on this front. We have answers to the questions people had and they look satisfactory to me. One thing that I think would be valuable is a document that explains the average dev how to make his/her ebuilds prefix compliant with links to more details when necess

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 19-11-2009 19:42:11 -0600, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Some questions answered. snipped the rest. readded questions where necessary > Denis Dupeyron wrote: > > 2009/10/18 Tomáš Chvátal : > >> Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being > >> run > >> and then INTERNALY

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 13-11-2009 12:43:25 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > In its November meeting [1], the council has unanimously expressed > support for this proposal [2]. > > However, there is need for additional discussion. From the council > meeting log I could extract the following open questions: > > 1. Wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-19 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Some questions answered. snipped the rest. Denis Dupeyron wrote: 2009/10/18 Tomáš Chvátal : Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being run and then INTERNALY switch D->ED and other variables. If that means we can get away without touching ebuilds, apart from ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > This is a formal apology for springing that onto you. Thanks a lot. Not everybody can do such a thing as a public apology. I will nonetheless ask the council to vote on the following during next meeting: Ask Fabian to change his signatu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-13 Thread Ulrich Mueller
In its November meeting [1], the council has unanimously expressed support for this proposal [2]. However, there is need for additional discussion. From the council meeting log I could extract the following open questions: 1. What are the implications for non-prefix devs and users? 2. Shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-10-24 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 24-10-2009 22:37:30 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > > The suggestion was to just introduce EAPI=3 with these variables, and > > making everything which is scheduled for current EAPI=3 just EAPI=4. I > > was told we could quite quickly have a Portage in the tree that would > > set ED and EROOT for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-10-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 18-10-2009 14:31:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> On 18-10-2009 13:57:10 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >>> Hi, >>> You know i am totaly supporting prefix but i have one point. >>> Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being >>> run >>> and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-10-19 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 18-10-2009 14:31:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 18-10-2009 13:57:10 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > Hi, > > You know i am totaly supporting prefix but i have one point. > > Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being > > run > > and then INTERNALY switch D-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-10-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 18-10-2009 13:57:10 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Hi, > You know i am totaly supporting prefix but i have one point. > Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being > run > and then INTERNALY switch D->ED and other variables. It would be much easier > that way to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-10-18 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hi, You know i am totaly supporting prefix but i have one point. Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being run and then INTERNALY switch D->ED and other variables. It would be much easier that way to migrate all stuff in portage instead of doing this || shebang.

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009, Petteri Räty wrote: > I was planning to ask this already but now is a good time too. Last > time we tried to remove a news item the client broke. Has the client > since been fixed and in stable long enough to presume that most > users have upgraded? The news module in e

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:29:25 +0300 Petteri Räty wrote: > I was planning to ask this already but now is a good time too. Last > time we tried to remove a news item the client broke. Has the client > since been fixed and in stable long enough to presume that most users > have upgraded? No (under ce

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Alex Alexander wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 14:07, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Crowded? I don't think so :) >> The number of news items is quite small, so I think we can afford having them >> all in the same folder > > I'm assuming devs will eventually pick this feature up and use it more often

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Alex Alexander
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 14:07, Markos Chandras wrote: > Crowded? I don't think so :) > The number of news items is quite small, so I think we can afford having them > all in the same folder I'm assuming devs will eventually pick this feature up and use it more often :) But yeah, as long as someon

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thursday 08 October 2009 13:57:40 Alex Alexander wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:08, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > Opinions? > > Sounds good, although it could get a bit crowded if we remove /, > unless we remove really old items (like >= 2 years old). > Crowded? I don't think so :) The nu

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Alex Alexander
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:08, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Opinions? Sounds good, although it could get a bit crowded if we remove /, unless we remove really old items (like >= 2 years old). -- Alex || wired

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo usage in companies

2009-09-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:58 Sat 26 Sep , Patrick Lauer wrote: > Hello everybody! > > As Gentoo approaches its 10th birthday I've been wondering how and where it > is > used. We used to have some great stories from companies in the weekly > newsletter, but that one has become very dormant a while ago. > > I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo usage in companies

2009-09-26 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Patrick Lauer wrote: > I'd like to collect your success stories, endorsements and case studies so we > can present to the rest of the world how using Gentoo makes your life easier > and is totally awesome. I had a similar thing in mind, too. Nice to see, you're goinf for it. > I would suggest

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-22

2009-08-27 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote: > What's next > === > Besides before-mentioned table the task > > Collect FEATURES variables in three sets (conf, defaults, globals), > not merged > http://soc.gentooexperimental.org/issues/show/58 > > is next on my list. Done. Previous test participants a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-02

2009-08-02 Thread Sebastian Pipping
I haven't mentioned yet that I have started using the provided Redmine installation, especially its bug tracker lately. The reason I post about this is these two links that might be of interest to some of you: Gentoo/Smolt/GSOC tasks http://soc.gentooexperimental.org/projects/stats/issues

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
I'm forwarding Roy's email to the dev-announce ml for reaching the wider community and for future reference. Roy Bamford wrote: > All, > > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > composed of:- > > Ned Ludd (solar) > Petteri Räty (betelgeuse) >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 01-07-2009 22:00:23 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > composed of:- > > Ned Ludd (solar) > Petteri Räty (betelgeuse) > Denis Dupeyron(calchan) > Tobias Scherbaum (dertobi123) > Ulrich Müll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 20:20:17 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 01 July 2009 17:00:23 Roy Bamford wrote: > > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > > composed of:- > > thanks for your continued effort at what most exceedingly tedious i really have to remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 17:00:23 Roy Bamford wrote: > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > composed of:- thanks for your continued effort at what most exceedingly tedious > solar solar for president > The details will be posted on the elections page shortly.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-21

2009-06-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > 1. That's not the only location used for layman. > - At home: /code/gentoo/layman/ > - At work: /usr/local/portage-layman/ > - Gentoo Infra: /usr/portage/local/layman/ > > 2. Just because an overlay is distributed by layman does NOT mean that >it's safe to disclose t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-21

2009-06-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I'm wondering how profiles should be reported. Rather than just the > endpoint, I'm thinking that we should resolve them and generate a list, > like the above, then explicitly whiteout the non-public ones. > So in the above, you'd report: > === > (censored) X 13 > default/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-29

2009-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Sebastian Pipping wrote: > I more or less took a week off GSoC for LinuxTag. > It gave me the chance to further spread the ideas > behind Gentoo (and also PackageMap) a bit. I think > that was worth not producing any code during the time. I agree wholeheartedly, you did a lot in the past days eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo IRC _is_ better than ML ;)

2009-06-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Steven J Long wrote: > Duncan wrote: > >> Wow, joke or not, this is the kind of thing that makes me glad I don't do >> IRC. > Just to answer this quickly, as I think you're querying my earlier assertion > that gentoo IRC is a lot of fun? > > The real point is that o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-25 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 22.06.2009, 15:18 -0400 schrieb Thomas Anderson: > (This is late because I was traveling and dev-zero is/was on devaway.) > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenod

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Thomas Anderson wrote: > (This is late because I was traveling and dev-zero is/was on devaway.) > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) !

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On E, 2009-06-22 at 15:18 -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote: > (This is late because I was traveling and dev-zero is/was on devaway.) > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) !

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On E, 2009-06-22 at 21:23 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:13:31 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > | (so that certain people can't vote and discuss things based upon > > | what they think the feature is without bothering to find out if it's > > | anything to do with what they

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:13:31 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > | (so that certain people can't vote and discuss things based upon > | what they think the feature is without bothering to find out if it's > | anything to do with what they assume). > > Of course that's not desirable. But can you give a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Thomas Anderson wrote: > Attached is the preliminary meeting agenda. Agenda is fine with me. > Define EAPI development/deployment cycles > - > Last meeting several members expressed support for Ciaran McCreesh's > sugge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Petteri Räty wrote: > I think we agreed that we would send comments about the agenda before > the meeting. The agenda presented seems fine to me. I don't see a need > for doing any major votes in the last meeting. ACKing the agenda, too. I didn't started to get the "deployment part" of the eapi-d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson wrote: > (This is late because I was traveling and dev-zero is/was on devaway.) > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! > > If you have something you'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-21

2009-06-21 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 04:55:02PM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > Relevant to this, I might not want to disclose my profile inheritance > > tree. Here's one of them for you: > > /etc/make.profile > > /etc/managed-portage/hosts/build_webdb/make.profile > > /etc/managed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-21

2009-06-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote: > A) Download and keep a snapshot of layman-global.txt in sync ourselves > > B) Use heuristic on layman's cache > > - Resolve ${cache} from /etc/layman/layman.cfg > > - Parse all ${cache}/cache_*.xml files using the Layman API > > - Compare the list o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-21

2009-06-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
First thanks for sharing your concerns and setup bits. That's the right thing at the the right time. Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Relevant to this, I might not want to disclose my profile inheritance > tree. Here's one of them for you: > /etc/make.profile > /etc/managed-portage/hosts/build_webdb/ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-21

2009-06-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
This isn't meant to shoot stuff down, but more to suggest other places that filtering is probably going to be needed, based on some "advanced" [1] usage of Gentoo. On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 03:26:56AM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > What do I mean by auto-filtering? Auto-filtering works to protec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi again. Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). The "voting booth" has now opened and his waiting f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-14 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). Nominations are now closed. An email with further details ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On E, 2009-06-01 at 10:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: > People I nominate: > > * leio / mraudsepp, because he's done a really good job protecting the > distro's interests I accept -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-14 Thread Wernfried Haas
Thanks again for the nomination, but i won't run for council. cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org Gentoo Forums - http://forums.gentoo.org forum-mods (at) gentoo.org #gentoo-forums (freenode) pgpOx0i3PV8aj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Thanks to those that have nominated me, I would not have expected it to be honest. I am going to decline for the Council election. I have lots of other items going on in my life and can't quite add this to my plate. Thanks, Jere

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-12 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Tiziano Müller wrote: > The people I'd like to nominate: > > - dertobi123 ... for his solid comments, experience, common sense, > reliability And I accept the nomination. Tobias signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:37:33 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Putting in a wait for 4 or 8 weeks or whatever doesn't cost us > anything but does simplify things and gives us a clear deployment > process. It loses us reasonably wide testing of Portage's implementation in ~arch. I'd rather not see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Roy Bamford wrote: > What about the case where the new EAPI breaks backwards compatibility > with existing package managers, as would be the case with glep 55? > > Its quite true that such changes can be introduced after a wait and > only upset late adoptors. By implementing the key feature of g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Oh please no wiki. Whatever. My requirements are quite simple: public accessible, no accounts needed on 3rd party systems (like Google) to add feature requests or comments and changes must be traceable. Using bugzilla fits those criteria as well. > The problem for EAPI 3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.06.10 22:21, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: [snip] > The main "problem" is that there is no deployment process for newer > EAPIs specified right now. In the past we had something like "there > must be two releases (stage sets) including a Portage ver

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:21:49 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > And for EAPI development: I did dislike the google spreadsheet which > has been used for EAPI-3 and don't think this has proved to be > useful. If we do opt for any public collaboration development process > (instead of say some file in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Tiziano Müller wrote: > EAPI 3: Short discussion of the progress > > > zmedico will provide an update on the progress of the implementation. Short > discussion of problems and implementation decisions if needed. Guess that's a rather short topic. Nothing t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > Bash-4 in EAPI-3 > > > > Goal: A request has been made to allow bash-4.0 features in > > EAPI-3. Decide first whether or not to open the EAPI-3 feature > > list at all. > No. bash-4 has seen some regressions and some oddities. 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:00:22 -0500 Doug Goldstein wrote: > > zmedico will provide an update on the progress of the > > implementation. Short discussion of problems and implementation > > decisions if needed. > > I'd say let's involve all the package manager maintainer groups. Each > packager manag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-10 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Dienstag, den 09.06.2009, 21:00 -0500 schrieb Doug Goldstein: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Tiziano Müller wrote: > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > > irc.freenode.net) ! > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-09 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > People I nominate: > > * Cardoe, because he is working goal-oriented and doesn't care about the > wargharbling and instead goes for restults > I've thought long and hard about this and have decided not to run for the council. I want to be able

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-09 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Tiziano Müller wrote: > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-07 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Anderson wrote: ... ... please remember to vote for gentoofan23, not tanderson(irc nick). ;-) > > Regards, > Thomas This is why everyone should verify their votes when submitting them. Don't forget to run: $ votify --verify If you use a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-07 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:25:54PM +0200, Dawid W??gli??ski wrote: > On Monday 01 of June 2009 06:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > > Hello fellow developers and users. > > > > I nominate: > > Betelgeuse > Calchan > peper > darkside > tanderson > Cardoe > Thanks Dawid, Mounir, and Tizia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-06 Thread Raúl Porcel
Ferris McCormick wrote: > I nominate: > ssuominen > armin76 > > Perhaps others later. > > Regards, > Ferris Thanks but I decline.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-05 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Rémi Cardona wrote: > My plan is to go over each package as time permits, check the license and > then make the x-modular eclass set the default license to MIT instead of > ${PN}. > > I could definitely use a hand to check all those packages :) > Here's a list of pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Nirbheek Chauhan a écrit : The x11 team[1] came to the conclusion that following RedHat's lead and just using MIT as license for Xorg packages should suffice since they are quite careful about these things. This should definitely be better than the current practice anyway. That's indeed my plan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 11

2009-06-05 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Tiziano Müller wrote: > Default ACCEPT_LICENSE > -- > Goal: A possible default value for ACCEPT_LICENSE has been proposed. Decide > whether that's ok. What happens to the X11 license files (one for each app)? > The x11 team[1] came to the conclus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-04 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne úterý 02 Červen 2009 21:21:06 Mounir Lamouri napsal(a): > I would like to nominate: > darkside > scarabeus > tanderson > > Mounir Thanks for the nomination, since at least 2 person said that they would like to see me there and I have the meetings at reasonable time in my TZ, I say ACK ;] Now

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński : > I nominate: [...] > Calchan Thanks Dawid, and also Ferris. I accept. You can find my manifesto at http://dev.gentoo.org/~calchan/manifesto09/manifesto.html Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński : > On Monday 01 of June 2009 06:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> Hello fellow developers and users. >> > > I nominate: > peper Thank you, I accept. -- Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszyński

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Luca Barbato
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > I would like to kick-start the nominations by nominating Mart Raudsepp > (leio), Petteri Räty (betelgeuse), and Luca Barbato (lu_zero) [all of > them are CCed] Patrick Lauer wrote: > * lu_zero, because he's done a good job and brings in his own ideas > without going relig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). I would like to nominate: darkside scarabeus tanderson Mounir

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread David Leverton
On Monday 01 June 2009 05:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). I would like to nominate dirtyepic, as he has repeatedly shown himself to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Monday 01 June 2009 16:29:35 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > I agree with patrick nominees expect one addition. I add patrick himself to > prove us that he can not only do benchmarks but to force us to do them :D Oh well then. I think I will have to accept your nomination and pour all my ideas into a n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-02 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 22:29 +0200 schrieb Tiziano Müller: > The people I'd like to nominate: > > - dertobi123 ... for his solid comments, experience, common sense, > reliability > - halcy0n ... even though he had to resign early I hope he finds time > again to run for council, I really enjoy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Dawid Węgliński
On Monday 01 of June 2009 06:25:06 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > I nominate: Betelgeuse Calchan peper darkside tanderson Cardoe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Mark Loeser
Tiziano Müller said: > The people I'd like to nominate: > - halcy0n ... even though he had to resign early I hope he finds time > again to run for council, I really enjoy working together with him and I > appreciate his common sense Thanks Tiziano, but I like the extra time I'm having to work on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:29:25 +0200 Tiziano Müller wrote: > The people I'd like to nominate: > > - dertobi123 ... for his solid comments, experience, common sense, > reliability > - halcy0n ... even though he had to resign early I hope he finds time > again to run for council, I really enjoy work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 12:17 +0200 schrieb Tobias Scherbaum: > And here we go, these are the ones I'd like to nominate: > > * dev-zero, well because ... i'd like him to be on the council again! And I accept the nomination, thank you. -- Tiziano Müller Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-06-01 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 27.05.2009, 20:55 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2009.05.27 13:46, Ferris McCormick wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 20:57 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: > > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Tiziano Müller
The people I'd like to nominate: - dertobi123 ... for his solid comments, experience, common sense, reliability - halcy0n ... even though he had to resign early I hope he finds time again to run for council, I really enjoy working together with him and I appreciate his common sense - betelgeuse ..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Thank you, Patrick and Tobias. I accept the nomination. Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto > wrote: >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next >> two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). >> > > I would like to kick-start the nominations by nominating Mart Raud

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Lauer wrote: > People I nominate: > * zmedico, because he has managed to beat portage into a really good shape and > keeps adding features that make users happy Thanks, but no thanks. I'm busy with other stuff. - -- Thanks, Zac -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Wernfried Haas wrote: > I'd like to counter-nominate you Aww... That must hurt. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
I agree with patrick nominees expect one addition. I add patrick himself to prove us that he can not only do benchmarks but to force us to do them :D signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Wernfried Haas
I'd like to counter-nominate you since you do a really good job. :-P cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org Gentoo Forums - http://forums.gentoo.org forum-mods (at) gentoo.org #gentoo-forums (freenode) pgp2DpnRWtMmS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
And here we go, these are the ones I'd like to nominate: * dev-zero, well because ... i'd like him to be on the council again! * ulm because I think he's an excellent addition to the council * amne, because I want him to stop slacking :P that's it for now :) wkr, Tobias Am Montag, den 01.06.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
People I nominate: * leio / mraudsepp, because he's done a really good job protecting the distro's interests * Cardoe, because he is working goal-oriented and doesn't care about the wargharbling and instead goes for restults * lu_zero, because he's done a good job and brings in his own ideas wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-05-31 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello, On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). > I would like to kick-start the nominations by nominating Mart Raudsepp (leio), Petteri Räty (betelgeuse),

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-05-28 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.28 20:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:42:30 +0100 > Roy Bamford wrote: > > I don't see any objective measurements of performace in GLEP 55 > > either. perhaps you coul

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