Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-07 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of wireless-regdb, which uses a date-based versioning system. If euscan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:32:30 +0200 Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Found a little problem: it's not finding a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] virtual/polkit-agent virtual pkg

2011-09-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/06/2011 07:44 PM, Maxim Koltsov wrote: If user is emerging some polkit-requiring package on DE-less system, it will pull big bunch of KDE, GNOME, etc. pacakges, which is not desired. Also, nm-applet and others can be set up with localauthority files, without help of polkit agents. I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Committing packages with unfetchable sources [sys-devel/gdb-7.3.1]

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Resending as i sent it from gmail instead of google acc so it didn't hit the list. Dne 7. září 2011 9:20 Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com napsal(a): Hi, please stop committing packages that is not possible to fetch right away. You can pick from three options: a) stop using

[gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Resending as i sent it from gmail instead of google acc so it didn't hit the list. -- Přeposlaná zpráva -- Od: Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com Datum: 5. září 2011 18:08 Předmět: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting Komu:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autodep project

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hi, really cool thing you create :) Would it be possible to move that package to main tree, and merge or possibly add new FEATURES option to portage like autobuildchecks that would be set by -dev profile? Cheers Tom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Andreas K. Hüttel
Ack.. both makes definitely sense. -- Přeposlaná zpráva -- Od: Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com Datum: 5. září 2011 18:08 Předmět: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting Komu: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Start collecting ideas

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:45:43 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:21:40PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 14:46:06 William

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like it was already pointed out before. Breakage is

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:27:05 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea Old systems should migrate to

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:32:05 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:27:05 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea Old systems should

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Rich Freeman's message of 2011-09-07 13:22:46 +0200: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like it was already pointed out before. Breakage is already there, you just don't notice it. Agreed, and once

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php/roadsend-php

2011-09-07 Thread Ole Markus With
# Ole Markus With olemar...@gentoo.org (07 Sep 2011) # Masked for removal 7 Oct 2011. # Multiple bugs (315721,341685) and dead upstream dev-php/roadsend-php Cheers, Ole Markus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. I suggest that EAPI 5 should include the two features that have been omitted from EAPI 4 [1,2]. Apart from this, I think we should be more careful for the next EAPI, in order to avoid such long delays as we had with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2011/9/7 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. I suggest that EAPI 5 should include the two features that have been omitted from EAPI 4 [1,2]. Apart from this, I think we should be more careful for the next EAPI, in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 16:27:01 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Well the patches code is in base eclass. Then you should first consider moving epatch to PMS. I'd honestly prefer going the other way. For Recommended it works like this: blabla.spec Recommended: xf86-video-ati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:07:21 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. I'd highlight the following bugs: 311795 - [Future EAPI] Allow dots in USE flag names 373377 - [Future EAPI] Remove IMAGE (deprecated already) -- Best regards, Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autodep project

2011-09-07 Thread Alexander Bersenev
I already have depcheck and depcheckstrict FEATURES. Emerge_strict script launch modified version of emerge enabling depcheckstrict feature. I have a 0.2 version of this utility with some bugs fixed, I testing it now. I plan to move this package into main tree and I am going to talk about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:07:21 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-pms/msg_dfef93f8d6bc6684d4dc9793563b4fdf.xml was my list. There are also various bits of lousy wording in PMS that I'd like to get cleared up over an

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Right now migrating to initramfs won't do any good, as Gentoo doesn't have an initramfs available which mounts /usr. No doubt once Fedora gets theirs working we'll be able to copy it (assuming it is FOSS), or we can write our own.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Robin H. Johnson's message of 2011-09-07 20:02:57 +0200: On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Right now migrating to initramfs won't do any good, as Gentoo doesn't have an initramfs available which mounts /usr. No doubt once Fedora gets theirs working

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:46AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Right now migrating to initramfs won't do any good, as Gentoo doesn't have an initramfs available which mounts /usr. No doubt once Fedora gets theirs

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/2011 05:27, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/07/2011 11:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:07:21 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. I'd highlight the following bugs: 311795 - [Future EAPI] Allow dots in USE flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:47:17 -0400 Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: I second the allowing dots in USE flag names. Definitely would be helpful for declaring version related USE flags. You know you won't be able to mention such flags in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:53:50PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:47:17 -0400 Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: I second the allowing dots in USE flag names. Definitely would be helpful for declaring version

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Joshua Kinard ku...@gentoo.org wrote: Never once have I had any issues with separate / and /usr, and none of them use an initramfs. Ditto here, but that doesn't mean that problems don't exist. Right now the problems are likely to be subtle, perhaps arising

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:35:46PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Joshua Kinard ku...@gentoo.org wrote: Never once have I had any issues with separate / and /usr, and none of them use an initramfs. Ditto here, but that doesn't mean that problems don't exist.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-07 Thread Nathan Phillip Brink
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:31:23PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: Are there possibilities about breaking off just a small piece of openrc and putting that into /run (or /boot)? Enough of the core scripts so that it can find /usr and mount it before continuing? Isn't /run something that's