[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:33:50 -0700 as excerpted: Couldn't you, on udev upgrade, move everything in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev, and then make the symlink? Seems fairly simple to me, but maybe I'm overlooking something? You are overlooking conflicts introduced through moving

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-libs/ffcall is looking for a new maintainer

2012-07-13 Thread Bernard Cafarelli
Le 12/07/2012 16:12, Samuli Suominen a écrit : On 07/11/2012 04:36 PM, Bernard Cafarelli wrote: This package historically belongs to the gnustep herd, but ffcall support in gnustep has been deprecated for some time now in favor of libffi (in fact the USE-flag may go away soon) Also, I do not

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: DEP They _are_ deprecated after all. Where is that documented? man inittab You seem to have a different version than I do: $ equery f sysvinit|xargs grep -i deprecated 2/dev/null $ equery f sysvinit|xargs bzgrep -i deprecated

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 13/07/2012 13:48, Tobias Klausmann ha scritto: You seem to have a different version than I do: Sorry wrong man, it was man init: Usage of SIGPWR and /etc/powerstatus is discouraged. Someone wanting to interact with init should use the /dev/initctl control channel - see the source code

[gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi, We'd like to start using array variables for DOCS and HTML_DOCS in qt4-r2.eclass, as they are already more widely used in other eclasses. Please check the attached diff and let us know what you think. Thanks on behalf of the Qt team! -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer Gentoo Qt

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:02:19 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: --- /usr/portage/eclass/qt4-r2.eclass 2012-04-20 07:01:13.0 +0800 +++ qt4-r2.eclass.new2012-07-13 19:45:59.259773917 +0800 @@ -19,6 +19,22 @@ export XDG_CONFIG_HOME=${T} +# @ECLASS-VARIABLE: DOCS

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:02:19 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: --- /usr/portage/eclass/qt4-r2.eclass 2012-04-20 07:01:13.0 +0800 +++ qt4-r2.eclass.new2012-07-13 19:45:59.259773917 +0800 @@

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:26:58 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] + # backward compatibility for non-array variables + if [[ -n ${DOCS} ]] [[ $(declare -p DOCS 2/dev/null 21) != declare -a* ]]; then + dodoc ${DOCS} || die dodoc failed + fi +

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread James Cloos
DEP == Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu writes: DEP They _are_ deprecated after all. Where is that documented? DEP man inittab Not here. (/usr/share/man/man5/inittab.5.bz2 from sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r3.) -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread William Hubbs
All, mgorny has written a patch for udev, which if it gets accepted, will make it read rules from /lib/udev/rules.d, so there will be nothing that we need to do on our side at all. William pgpBzeeg8CYM1.pgp Description: PGP signature

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2012-07-13 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +, Duncan wrote They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble, but of course that's now part of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Richard Yao
On 07/13/2012 04:04 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +, Duncan wrote They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble, but of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a daemon. Perhaps by the time /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is gone, mdev advocates will have settled on some early udev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a daemon. Perhaps by the time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. I think that's quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. I think that's quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large for embedded devices. What's “too large”? Udev already looks pretty small to me (116k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon which turns around and launches udev. A quicker-and-dirtier solution would be to create a shim daemon that runs under the the name udev, and passes all calls to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon which turns around and launches udev. A quicker-and-dirtier solution would be to create a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 21:10 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon which turns around and launches udev. A quicker-and-dirtier solution would be to create a shim daemon that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large for embedded

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded device area?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote: And on any new embedded platform, one should seriously think about using systemd too. It is very lean, replaces most of the giant, unmaintainable shellscripts that you find in many devices with smaller compiled code, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Do you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] A lot of that is optional. The only hard dependencies are: =sys-apps/kmod-5 =sys-apps/util-linux-2.20 dev-util/gperf =dev-util/intltool-0.40.0 virtual/pkgconfig virtual/os-headers Everything else is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:13:43PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. I think that's quite unlikely,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Sylvain Alain
Hi all, about the Mdev stuff, Slashbeast from Funtoo.org started that project a while ago. https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss I think that it's actually working pretty good on his box. Some Coredevs from Funtoo are actually running with that stuff. Sylvain 2012/7/13 William Hubbs